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Author: Aussie Nick
Date: 2018-08-04 06:43
Hi everyone,
I switched from Buffet Festivals to Yamaha CSG-III's almost a year ago. For me there has been no looking back - they are fantastic horns.
However, I have had some (right) hand position problems in relation to the thumb rest and the extra correction key for low F. Essentially I find myself accidentally slightly opening the correction key at times. I can alleviate this by raising the thumb rest higher, but I then find it's not as comfortable for me as I do not have particularly large hands. I like the thumb rest about 3 clicks down, but then have the problem with the correction key placement.
Has anyone had experience with altering the position of the correction key? I would assume this would be something an experience tech could do with relative ease?
Your thoughts and experiences would be great. Thanks
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2018-08-04 11:35
Can a repairman heat the key and push it downwards lower towards the bell? Just an idea. I did this on the left hand that controls the low register on my set of CSVR's. However I didn't have to heat the keys. They are much longer. If you can't move the keys by the force of your hand I heat them. There is a lot of soldering done where the leys meet the pads. Easy to break if you use pliers.
I'd say it's a 3 minute fix if you can do it yourself and same with a repairman but you have to drive there to get fitted!
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
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Author: Johan H Nilsson
Date: 2018-08-04 13:04
Put some cork or felt under the thumb so it gets more elevated. Or bend the correction key. There is always a way…
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2018-08-04 20:04
Heat the key? What will that achieve?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: fernie121
Date: 2018-08-04 21:50
Heating the key would make it easier to bend, I’d assume. Not sure about doing this while they key is on the clarinet? Maybe it doesn’t matter.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2018-08-05 00:04
Warming the key up a bit won't make any difference - you'll need to get the key glowing red hot to significantly soften the metal which will in turn destroy the plating and the hard solder joints.
Keys are often already annealed from them being hard soldered during manufacture and can mostly be bent cold without any problems, that is if you know where and how much you can bend them by. Unless the alloy is a particularly hard or brittle alloy, then they risk fracturing if you bend them - also bending them too much will work harden the metal and that will cause it to break if overdone.
Doing a Uri Geller by rubbing them with your fingers to warm them up by one or two degrees won't soften the metal, nor will warming them up with a gentle heat source such as breathing on them, focussing the sun on them with a magnifying glass, using a hairdryer, hot air torch, alcohol burner or using a general purpose gas torch - if such low temperatures were to soften the metal, then pad cups and whatnot will distort when installing the pads with enough heat to melt the hot glue or shellac.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Bob Barnhart ★2017
Date: 2018-08-05 02:11
This reminds me of "The Matrix Reloaded" -
"Don't try to bend the (key) for that would be impossible. Rather, try to remember that...there is no (key)!"
Seriously, I have played the CSG-L and found no problem with the correction key. Is it possible that a minor alteration of your right-hand position could avoid the problem (e.g., having less RH thumb under the thumb-rest)?
Bob Barnhart
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2018-08-05 08:55
>> rubbing them with your fingers to warm them up by one or two degrees won't soften the metal <<
Actually that can raise the temp by much more than one or two degrees... which... still won't make any difference
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