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Author: Lee
Date: 2001-06-15 14:43
what do you guys think of chedeville mouthpieces because a few days ago I went to a friend's house and he gave me on of his and I personally feel that it's a great mouthpiece, so what do you guys think
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2001-06-15 15:21
I think you have a great friend and the treasure is not in the mouthpiece, but in the friendship.
However, the chedevilles are fantastic. They're highly prized among eBay shoppers because people have learned that they sound great!
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Author: Chris Hill
Date: 2001-06-16 05:12
You can still buy new Chedeville mouthpieces from dealers, but they are very different from the old Chedevilles that people are paying ridiculous prices for. However, I've played some good new ones, and some terrible old ones. (Even with refacing, there were some inherent problems in the chamber which made them mediocre at best.) It would be awful to spend $1600 (this happened on eBay) on an old Ched, only to find out that it is best used as a doorstop.
All of that said, I play on a Chedeville, and love it.
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Author: Chris Hill
Date: 2001-06-16 05:14
I just wanted to clarify, the price was truly $1600, I don't know if the mouthpiece was the world's best, worst, or something in between. I was very unclear in my first posting.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2001-06-16 14:20
I think the $1600 deal was some kind of sham thing to drive prices up. I just absolutely have a hard time believing anyone would actually pay that much for one. I paid $450.00 for my Kaspar, but I got to test 7 different ones before selecting it and it did so much for me that I decided it was worth it.
Several mouthpiece makers make Chedeville imitations that are excellent. I once owned a genuine Chedeville and it was very smooth and had a great sound. If you find one that works for you and you have the money, it probably would be worth a good price, but not $1600.00 under any consideration. There are too many good mouthpiece makers out there like Greg Smith who custom make great mouthpieces.
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Author: Sara
Date: 2001-06-16 14:36
I think I paid that much (1600) for my beginer clarinet and my intermediate and my marching clarinets combined! Thats a lot to be dealing out for just the mouthpiece!
Sara
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Author: Bill
Date: 2001-06-18 16:36
In Brenda's message above, it says "Several mouthpiece makers make Chedeville imitations." What I've long wondered is, what are the physical characteristics, what are the specifics of the blank, of a Chedeville mouthpiece that make it a "Chedeville" and not a "Kaspar" (or "Goldentone") imitation? For instance, if you were making an imitation of an apple, you'd most likely paint it red, or make it relatively round. When you turned to making a pear imitation, well, you get the point. What are the properties (chamber, windway, window, etc.) of these legendary mouthpieces? Or, is everyone saying that imitations are made simply by matching sound (that seems impossible).
A sincere question.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2001-06-18 20:21
Bill, do some research here on Sneezy for threads on Chedeville and Kaspar. They're named after their creators and do have certain characteristics that make them different from others. Charles Bay defines his Chedeville style mouthpiece as being like the mouthpieces made by Henri Chedeville, with a chamber floor like Chedevilles. He says it has a considerable concavity that extends throught the length of the chamber floor and has a dark, rich quality.
Clark Fobes did a study on Kaspar mouthpieces that can be found here on Sneezy and you might find it informative. Surely there are articles out there on the Chedevilles. I think it might be too extensive to get into here on a thread.
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Author: Bill
Date: 2001-06-20 22:19
Thanks, Brenda. I don't think it would be too extensive to explore here, however. In fact, my impression is that not many really know what actually characterizes the mouthpieces they discuss so frequently, other than their love for the sound that is made. That's a fine reason, too, but it shouldn't have to be the only reason. We should know what is done to blanks to make them "Kaspar-like," especially when all the big names are doing just that. --Bill.
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