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Author: ndfay
Date: 2018-06-23 17:24
This was sold to me as a "Buffet" clarinet. Made in Germany, serial 1159034. There are no logos on any part. At first I thought the cheap E-11 logos had just worn off--as is often the case--but then I asked why this clarinet would have an earlier serial with screen-printed logos compared to my later serial with imprinted logos. Then I'm also noticing several subtle differences from my other German Buffet. Note the oversized adjustment screw on the A, the "added on" look of the finger pads on the RH trill keys (vs. one contiguous key), the shape of the lower sliver key, the little cutout part on the LH pinky keys, which are also not "pinned" to their RH counterparts as my Buffet is. It also has blued steel tapered springs, vs. silver non-tapered on my marked Buffet. It's serialized on both joints while my Buffet is only on the lower joint. It has "Made In Germany" under the serial, while my Buffet has "Made In W. Germany" over the serial. Mine (s/n 233258) is either an "original" Buffet-outsourced Schreiber-Keilwerth E11, except that the keys are nickel, which would make it a Buffet-owned Schreiber-made E11N, except that it says "W. Germany," which doesn't seem likely after the Schreiber purchase in 2010, and it has imprinted logos, and it's in a 70's-ish case. That's a mouthful! Anyway . . . just wondering if the one I bought is really a Buffet E-11 (B45, etc.), or if it's an unmarked German clarinet in a Buffet case.
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Author: Kalashnikirby
Date: 2018-06-23 18:09
Here's a really good history in the Buffet E11:
Schreiber has been making clarinets under the Buffet name for a long time, there's also been "Schreiber" named Boehm system clarinets, IIRC also after 1990.
The Kessler articles also mentiones those early E11s being produced in West Germany, so anything could have happened between 1990-2010...
I'm just confused about the unpinned levers, but that might just be because your clarinet is a cheaper model and was produced before the introduction of the unbeloved nylon pins.
It's very unlikely that there'd been another German maker in the last 2-3 decades that produced Boehms clarinets with only printed logos.
Best regards
Christian
Post Edited (2018-06-23 18:09)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2018-06-23 20:03
Wooden Evettes from the '70s to mid '80s and then Buffet E11 clarinets from the mid '80s onwards were made by Schreiber (in W. Germany before Reunification, then Germany after that), had nickel plated keywork and had stepped linkages on the LH levers until the late '90s when they changed to nylon pins and also used Buffet's point screws with the plastic collars instead of headless point screws with the blue dollop of plastic on them.
They also had single piece (integral touchpiece and key arm that is) throat A keys and side F# and Eb/Bb keys as well as the LH levers. Later models had the touchpieces soldered on and the most recent have the LH levers with soldered on touchpieces as well.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: ndfay
Date: 2018-06-23 20:13
And I missed a digit in the serial numbers, which makes mine older, which makes a lot of this make more sense. So this could be a newer E11, with screen-printed logos that faded off, and weird keywork that doesn't match my others. Thanks!
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