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 Re: older "golden era" R13 vs. more recent
Author: m1964 
Date:   2018-06-13 08:33

"They were wonderful instruments for their time and most would be classified as at least "good" if not better even today, assuming they were maintained reasonably well. Many sell for less than a new E12 and much less than a new "pro" level instrument of any brand. You can always have a Buffet adjustable thumb rest installed to replace the original fixed one.

As far as the ergonomic comfort of the key layout is concerned, that's an individual choice. You'd have to actually try an instrument to determine if the keys are comfortable. For example, on my R13 from the period the RH pinky keys are set at a right angle to the instrument's body. (One of the changes that were made on the Selmer 10G, which was modeled on a Moennig-modified R13, was that those keys were angled upward to make the player's reach to them a little shorter).

Karl"

Hi Karl,
Thanks a lot for replying to my post.

As I mentioned in the post above, it is difficult to see the exact condition of the clarinet when buying the instrument from eBay or CL.

But, in fact, when I tried the older R13 from 1970, I noted that the Rt. pinky keys were lower comparing to my newer E12, and were more difficult to reach (I am pretty sure I would be able to adapt if I played that R13 a little longer).

I also would hesitate to install an adjustable thumb rest if it would require drilling new holes…but again, I may be able to adjust to the existing thumb rest.

The things I want to know are:

1. Can I expect the sound/tone quality of older R13 to be better that my E12?

2. Is the intonation of the older R13s better or worse comparing to the recent Buffets (esp. comparing to E11-12 models)?

3. How does the keywork of the older Buffets stand the time? Do the screw holes need to be re-surfaced? Springs replaced? Etc…

Thanks a lot for trying to help

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m1964 2018-06-12 07:19 
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jbutler 2018-06-12 21:23 
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m1964 2018-06-13 08:14 
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kdk 2018-06-12 22:42 
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m1964 2018-06-13 08:33 
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Bob Bernardo 2018-06-13 14:05 
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m1964 2018-06-15 01:58 
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jbutler 2018-06-15 02:51 
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m1964 2018-06-15 02:01 
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jbutler 2018-06-14 23:46 
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Caroline Smale 2018-06-15 02:14 
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Bob Bernardo 2018-06-15 08:06 
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Bob Bernardo 2018-06-15 08:32 
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Episkey 2018-06-18 08:03 
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Bob Bernardo 2018-06-20 10:44 
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LGS316217 2018-06-20 18:33 
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m1964 2018-07-05 08:02 
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Episkey 2018-06-21 00:52 
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jthole 2018-06-21 23:31 
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Bob Bernardo 2018-06-22 01:35 
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Episkey 2018-06-22 02:03 
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Bob Bernardo 2018-06-22 09:44 
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donald 2018-06-23 06:41 
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Episkey 2018-06-23 17:42 
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Clarineteer 2018-07-05 09:01 
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m1964 2018-07-07 08:32 
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Bob Bernardo 2018-07-07 09:51 
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