 The Clarinet BBoard
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Author: GenEric
Date: 2018-04-27 04:57
I really want to improve on my sight reading. It seems pretty intriguing to me to have a piece of music in front of me and just play it effortlessly. I was in awe when our band director gave us Molly on the Shore for our spring concert. The first time playing it, our concert master nailed every note and it was his first time playing it. I've been trying to stop my bad habit of tapping my toe to keep rhythm. However, now, although I don't tap my toe, I lost rhythm all together. Any ideas on keeping time without tapping toes? Answer has to be metronome but I cant think of a effective way to practice with it.
I was wondering if there was a book with a bunch of famous clarinet excerpts. I know Peter Hadcock has a book for Eb that a lot of teachers recommend. I was wondering if there was a similar book for Bb clarinet with famous excerpts like Beethoven 6, Scheherazade, all that good stuff and advice like in the Hadcock book. I think Hadcock has a Bb book as well but I cant find it online anywhere. Do you guys have other recommendations?
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2018-04-27 05:44
Excerpts are for auditions. Just to go to IMSLP and read through entire Clarinet 1 parts.
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Author: zhangray4
Date: 2018-04-27 06:16
The "Orchestral Excerpts from the Symphonic Repertoire for Clarinet" by International Music is pretty good book for excerpts. They come in 5 volumes. But you can all find these online on IMSLP as mentioned by nellsonic, or on some website like this one: http://orchestraexcerpts.com/clarinet/
Edit: ok don't use the Orchestral Excerpts from International then. Before practicing the actual excerpt, I always confirm the accuracy by searching for it on IMSLP, but I know that's not what everyone does. I like the book because it is just easy to carry around in my folder, and they usually contain the most important stuff. Thanks GBK for the suggestion.
-- Ray Zhang
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Author: GBK
Date: 2018-04-27 07:30
zhangray4 wrote:
> The "Orchestral Excerpts from the Symphonic Repertoire for
> Clarinet" by International Music is pretty good book for
> excerpts. They come in 5 volumes. But you can all find these
> online on IMSLP as mentioned by nellsonic, or on some website
> like this one:
> http://orchestraexcerpts.com/clarinet/
Do NOT use the "Orchestral Excerpts from the Symphonic Repertoire for
Clarinet" by International Music. It is full of misprints, wrong notes, typos, etc...
BTW - There are 8 volumes. Not 5
Corrections for vol. 1 and 2 and the Bonade Orchestral excerpt book can be found here:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/list.html?f=23
Play from the original parts. Forget the books.
...GBK
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Author: MartyMagnini
Date: 2018-04-27 16:19
Peter Hadcock's book "The Working Clarinetist" is for Bb clarinet, and is filled with orchestral excerpts, along with excellent, specific advise on how to play them. You should get the book.
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Author: Ken Lagace
Date: 2018-04-27 16:43
Here are a bunch of free downloads.
https://www.woodwindexcerpts.com/clarinet/downloads/
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Author: kdk
Date: 2018-04-27 17:03
The performance advice in the Hadcock book may add value to it, but in general the old excerpt books have become mostly outdated by the availability of whole parts online. Even the OMCDRL series has been made obsolete.
When the International books were published, there was no way for most student players to get their hands on the actual parts. It was expensive to buy each one. If your teacher played in an orchestra with a large library of performing parts and he or she was willing to make copies for students, you might be able to get parts that way, but the oldest books came out even before the days of Xerox photocopies. The books weren't always reliable - McGinnis's books are full of errors, as are Bonade's book, Cailliet's book of French excerpts and probably the later International books that came after McGinnis had their share. Besides, being excerpts, the books couldn't possibly have included every passage that might show up in an audition.
IMSLP has most of the Public Domain parts that an orchestra player would need to play. Whether you're interested in this to prepare for auditions, or you're just interested in playing the major solo passages for your own amusement, you're better off with the full parts. You won't find many "modern" works - 1940s on - at IMSLP, but they aren't in the excerpt books or OMCDRL, either, because they're still protected by copyright. The old copies of the excerpt books do have Shostakovich and Prokofiev excerpts in them that have, I think, been deleted from newer editions because the Russian participation in international copyright agreements changed in the 1970s, so you'd have to find an antique copy of any of the books to get those.
By the way, if you're interested in learning the orchestral parts in a serious way, even the original parts often have errors. It's good to sit down with recordings and listen to see if you hear discrepancies between the performance and the written part.
Karl
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Author: MartyMagnini
Date: 2018-04-27 18:11
I think the Hadcock book is an excellent resource, and a great way to begin your orchestral excerpt studies. Here is an extensive library of orchestral clarinet works that include the entire part (and all the parts - 2nd, 3rd clarinet, etc.). For the serious student, you must study these excerpts in context, and these volumes are well worth the investment. For others, IMSLP may suffice.
http://www.orchmusiclibrary.com/products_listing.php?list_type=instrument&id=3
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Author: kdk
Date: 2018-04-27 19:17
MartyMagnini wrote:
> For
> the serious student, you must study these excerpts in context,
> and these volumes are well worth the investment. For others,
> IMSLP may suffice.
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> http://www.orchmusiclibrary.com/products_listing.php?list_type=instrument&id=3
This is (or was) the Orchestra Musician's CD-ROM Library (OMCDRL) - I don't know if they come now on some other medium, explaining dropping the CDR part of the old name.
They were a tremendous resource when they came out. But they were, I think, eclipsed soon after by the vast Petrucci Music Library at IMSLP. What is included in OML that isn't available at IMSLP gratis? Maybe a few specific pieces, but both are limited to PD music.
BTW, IMSLP relies largely on donations. It is free for public use, but they ask for donations and reward them with faster access.
Karl
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Author: seabreeze
Date: 2018-04-27 23:16
I second Ken Lagasse's recommendation of https://www.woodwindexcerpts.com/clarinet. The selections there are just a beginning but the recorded excerpts should be part of every clarinetist's education. I had forgotten at just how fast a clip Szell made the Cleveland Orchestra play Midsummer Night's Dream! He slowed it down just a bit for the London orchestra but still quite a romp. The diverse playing styles on the Tosca solo show that interpretation of classical music is anything but mechanical and uniform.
I wish Peter and The Wolf and the Bartok Concerto for Orchestra had been included, but there might be copyright limitations preventing that.
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Author: DougR
Date: 2018-05-14 07:37
Actually, there's another way: do a web search for "audition excerpts" plus ".pdf." (without the quotation marks, obviously) As it happens, orchestras posting audition notices also post the required excerpts usually in pdf files; using those search terms I just came across the excerpts required for the KC Symphony auditions for clarinet/bass clarinet (which, interestingly, also includes excerpts for 2nd clarinet as well).
Obviously, I don't know if the excerpts were copied from the orchestra's library or from IMSLP, but at very least it'd give one a sense of what's being asked for these days.
Do that for an hour or so, download the files and print them out, and you have a pretty respectable excerpt book.
But for sight reading? I'm with GBK--read through the whole part. read through etude books. Read through ANYTHING, just be sure to do it regularly.
In fact, there must be threads on this very board about improving sight-reading, and I'd suggest doing a search here as well.
Good luck!
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