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Author: Speculator Sam
Date: 2018-04-16 19:46
If for some reason someone wanted to learn Bach's first cello suite, but want it in concert G as well, then I have the PDF for you!. You'll find it under arrangements and transcriptions. Also, this score read video accompanied by a recording as well. Thanks for reeding
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2018-04-16 20:27
Looks good but why are there many "double/triple stops"?
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Author: Speculator Sam
Date: 2018-04-16 21:33
This was as the original Anna Magdelena score was written. The chords can be played at the discretion of the clarinetist. Many woodwind players choose to play chords as grace notes and emphasize the highest and/or lowest note(s) of the chord. To not include those chords would be to disregard the original composition.
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2018-04-17 16:18
No offense, but if you consider excluding these chords would be a disregard to the original composition, playing a cello piece on clarinet is against the composer's intention as well, considering some people here even stubbornly believe that we still must use C clarinet to play some Beethoven, otherwise it is a huge disregard to this music. Interestingly, I found some chords of this piece probably can be played as multiphonics!
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Author: Speculator Sam
Date: 2018-04-17 19:53
Ah multiphonics! Harry Sparrnay would be proud. RIP he was a blessing to the scary music community, and as a professor. That's one way to think of it Klose. From what I can surmise, people play pieces on different instruments due to either accessibility or due to preference. For example, I suppose one day I could learn to play cello, but I can't play either right now. However, I do play clarinet and bass clarinet so I could make do with what I have.
As far as C clarinet's concerned, there's a significant timbral difference. If it's available, then it should be used. Of course, if it's a high school or local orchestra and a quality C clarinet isn't possible then it's not worth it to trash Beethoven's music with an inferior instrument that'd make his music sound childish.
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2018-04-17 21:27
Of course it depends on how much time you have and what kinds of things you want to do eventually, but it isn't that hard to transpose these from the cello score so that you're playing them in the correct key but up an octave. Transposing and reading clefs we're not used to is really good practice, and opens up a lot of otherwise unavailable music and playing opportunities.
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Author: Speculator Sam
Date: 2018-04-17 22:42
Anyone can transpose if they have the patience or the software. You're right dorjepismo, it's not difficult; it did take me 6 hours though. I agree, reading different clefs opens up the world of music and it should be done. Bass clef is featured in a lot of old orchestral repertoire for bass clarinet, so definitely anyone preparing for an orchestra gig should be reading bass clef. I just wanted to make it easier for clarinetists that wanted to learn the first suite in Concert pitch.
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2018-04-17 22:43
Speculator Sam, I am afraid that I don't agree with your opinion that there is a significant timbral difference between C clarinet and B-flat. There might be a difference, but it is less significant than the one among different makers/models of B-flat clarinets (with different players on different mouthpieces/reeds/ligatures etc.). In other words, if we do a blind test, a number of players play a C clarinet (I guess Buffet is the only major company who makes one professional model of C clarinet?) and these players also play their own B-flat clarinets (maybe also with different mouthpieces/reeds/ligatures/instruments for one player), the possibility for the listeners to pick the C clarinet sound correctly would be very low. Furthermore, Beethoven composed all his music for German bore instruments. To me, an Oehler player, it is kind of ridiculous to argue that we have to use a C Böhm to play his music. Of course, I don't mean playing his music on Böhm instruments is by any means inferior.
As for your transposed version, I like the idea, even though I am not a fan of using a different instrument to play a master piece. To me, it would be even better if you, as an arranger here, could provide a solution for these double/triple stops.
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Author: ClarinetRobt
Date: 2018-04-17 23:38
Sam, I think it’s terrific you transposed this. If your transcription gets a young student excited to practice, then all the better. The piece gives a clarinetist the opportunity to work on and discuss some technique of the horn while playing a piece they recognize and love. What great way to become a better player and perhaps not force a young player to stomach Baermann for example.
Would I put it on a recital? Probably not, but it could be fun in a casual setting and I bet a crowd pleaser.
~Robt L Schwebel
Mthpc: Behn Vintage
Lig: Ishimori, Behn Delrin
Reed: Legere French Cut 3.75/4, Behn Brio 4
Horns: Uebel Superior (Bb,A), Ridenour Lyrique, Buffet R13 (Eb)
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Author: zhangray4
Date: 2018-04-17 23:51
I agree with Robert. I have the 1st Bach Cello Suite at home, but arranged for clarinet. So it's been changed to concert Bb. It would be nice for me to play it in the original key for the fun of it. I'm not sure why there is so much hate for Sam's hard work.
-- Ray Zhang
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2018-04-18 00:20
zhangray4 wrote:
> I agree with Robert. I have the 1st Bach Cello Suite at home,
> but arranged for clarinet. So it's been changed to concert Bb.
> It would be nice for me to play it in the original key for the
> fun of it. I'm not sure why there is so much hate for Sam's
> hard work.
>
Not sure what you mean. Who hates Sam's work?
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2018-04-18 01:53
Sam,
What I was talking about is just looking at the cello part and playing it. I do that with 1, 2 and 5, and when I was teaching, I had some of the brighter students doing that too. No software or writing needed! It takes time to get used to, but once you can do it, you can do it. I wouldn't want to try that with Alban Berg, but up through Brahms and Schumann, it isn't the north face of Eiger in Winter.
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