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Author: Mrdi
Date: 2018-04-04 17:37
When attempting to go from F4to F3 my clarinet
often jumps to C5. My register key is sealing well and the opening
is clean. My embouchure is constant. If I tongue it I can get it to change down to F3, but I want to move w/o tonguing. This is occurring on my wood clarinet. If I use my Vito the same thing does NOT occur.
Changes in reed or mouthpiece doesn't make a difference.
Any clues?
Post Edited (2018-04-05 00:25)
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2018-04-04 19:25
My standard Boehm clarinets can't get anywhere near F2; the lowest normal note is E3, though if I block the bell with a fold of my pants near the knee and lip down a lot and blow really hard, I can get Eb3. How do you play an F2??
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Author: Mrdi
Date: 2018-04-04 19:53
My KORG orchestral tuner identifies open G on my Bb clarinet
as G3 and my lowest note as note as E2
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Author: zhangray4
Date: 2018-04-04 22:40
C4 (C subscript 4) is technically supposed to be the 4th C key from the left on the standard 88-key piano, also known as "middle C." But for some reason your tuner is different. If your tuner defines G3 as open G, then I assume your problem is what Karl mentioned above.
-- Ray Zhang
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2018-04-04 22:50
If it's F4 to F3 with C5 in the middle, then "if it were me" the problem would probably be my left index finger failing to close the top hole. This tendency might not appear on different keywork.
Is the ring around the hole a little high, i.e., do you have to add pressure to push it down? If so, perhaps the cork in the linkage is getting worn, or some other adjustment might be needed.
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Author: Mrdi
Date: 2018-04-04 22:53
Thanks
Open G on the clarinet should register as which G # ??? on the KORG?
The only openly plated G the KORG will register is G3. Perhaps it is incapable of the correct transposition.
Simple F (left thumb only) also registers as F3.
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Author: Mrdi
Date: 2018-04-04 23:02
I think the problem is the Korg identifying single thumb F as F2.
What should the single thumb left hand F register on the KORG?
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2018-04-04 23:08
Mrdi - see the graphic in the masthead on every page of this site which depicts C4, the lowest C on standard clarinets. That's the standard nomenclature scheme, and it's described in numerous spots online (like Wikipedia.) It helps to use it here to avoid steps of confusion. Not sure what's up with the tuner.
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Author: Johan H Nilsson
Date: 2018-04-04 23:20
F2 does not exist on any clarinet. C3 is the lowest note on "low C"-instruments.
Use the "Smileys/Notes" link in the header of the forum. Use this standard and the efficiency of discussions will rise exponentially.
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Author: Mrdi
Date: 2018-04-04 23:22
Thanks ..
I have changed the original post to correctly identify the problem.
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2018-04-04 23:34
Or, following on from my above suggestion about the lh index finger ring, maybe the pad just above that, the one under the A4 key, isn't closing real well.
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Author: Fuzzy
Date: 2018-04-04 23:34
"Single thumb f" is actually F4 ![[F4]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/f4.gif) , the F above that would be F5 ![[F5]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/f5.gif) - you aren't (by chance) playing bass or alto clarinet, are you?
Post Edited (2018-04-04 23:36)
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Author: kdk
Date: 2018-04-05 02:19
Mrdi wrote:
> F4 to F3 but the horn goes to C5
So, something isn't sealing well and is acting like a register vent. It could be a leaky pad somewhere on the instrument. It could be a finger not cleanly closing its tone hole when you put your fingers down.
Your first line of attack should be to make sure the clarinet isn't leaking. It wouldn't take a very big, obvious leak. Test each section for a seal. If you aren't sure how to do that, you might get a repair person to check for you.
If all is sealing well, next try playing from F4 (thumb) downward to progressively lower notes - F-E, F-D, F-C, etc. - and see if the tendency to jump begins somewhere higher than F3. If it does, the culprit leak is probably somewhere in the area of the note that jumps.
If you're getting all the way down to F4-G3 with no problem, and the issue only happens with F3, then consider that one of your right hand fingers - probably your index finger but possibly the fourth finger - is coming off its hole when you stretch down for the F key.
It will take some detective work, but basically you have to find a leak. The question is whether it's on the instrument or in your fingers.
Karl
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Author: Dibbs
Date: 2018-04-05 13:20
Check the adjustment of the throat A key. There should be a tiny bit of movement before the G# key starts to open. If not it can cause the G# hole to leak which could have the effect you describe.
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![[C4]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/c4.gif)
![[C6]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/c6.gif)
instead of slurring down to ![[F3]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/f3.gif)
producing ![[C5]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/c5.gif)
? Or an octave higher as Ray suggests?