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 Rachmanioff Piano Concerto no.2 Excerpt Education
Author: zhangray4 
Date:   2018-02-15 05:30


I liked this video a lot, helpful but funny at the same time.

The name Tony Pay was mentioned in the video, when the directors talks about an anecdote at 10:27. Is it the same Tony Pay that frequently posts here?

-- Ray Zhang

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 Re: Rachmanioff Piano Concerto no.2 Excerpt Education
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2018-02-15 08:40

Once again, James Zimmerman scores with a presentation that is original and uniquely useful. Loved it when he told Joyce Yang, "I'll play the flute part." Has anyone ever taken apart the art of cooperation between orchestral player, conductor, and featured soloist before like this on video? Teachers always say "you have to listen" but he goes further and says exactly what you have to listen for and presents an object lesson of what might happen if players could converse amicably with conductors and soloists. How often can this really take place? I don't know, but it sure looks attractive when it happens.

Bravo again! This has to be my favorite YouTube series on the clarinet. I hope Mr. Zimmerman keeps this going for a long time!

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 Re: Rachmanioff Piano Concerto no.2 Excerpt Education
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2018-02-15 09:27

Indeed that was such a learning experience with pitch. One of my favorite solos. He played it with such emotion, as did the second clarinetist.

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 Re: Rachmanioff Piano Concerto no.2 Excerpt Education
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2018-02-15 09:58

I do think the discussion could be carried even further. Mr. Zimmerman did not go into pitch with the conductor, who rather steered the conversation toward the difficulties of playing rhythmically with a soloist who wants to do everything ad libitum. Since Tony Pay was the clarinetist burdened with that impossible task, I'd like to hear his opinion. But what would the conductor have said if asked about the need for the clarinet to play exactly in tune with the flute and for both instruments to adjust pitch according to what interval in the chord they are playing? Would he have pointed out "well you know the pianist cannot do that--she's stuck with the notes as they have been tuned on the instrument."

So is such very accurate attention to pitch a value held by all conductors? Or do they care more about agreement in rhythm and phrasing and balanced dynamics, blend and beautiful tone color? And what of audiences? Are they as sensitive to pitch at the standard Mr. Zimmerman wants? Perhaps some listeners and even conductors would have found nothing very wrong with the performance that Mr. Zimmerman (correctly) faults for the clarinetist playing sharp. That player did play the rhythm well and phrased musically to match the flute and also had a fine, concentrated orchestral sound. So all was not lost!

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 Re: Rachmanioff Piano Concerto no.2 Excerpt Education
Author: nellsonic 
Date:   2018-02-15 09:58

Yes, that's the same Tony Pay. I'm with seabreeze - this series is gold! Glad the first one wasn't a fluke.

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 Re: Rachmanioff Piano Concerto no.2 Excerpt Education
Author: GBK 
Date:   2018-02-15 21:50

Excellent video - especially demonstrating how keeping the RH C/F and B/E key down throughout the solo can help with keeping the pitch from getting too high.


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