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 Mouthpieces..
Author: Russ 
Date:   2001-06-10 19:24

Well, I just wanted to know what type of mouthpiece do you use, and do you like it? Which is you fav.? Thanks!!

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 RE: Mouthpieces..
Author: Lizzie 
Date:   2001-06-10 19:41

i use a mouthpiece that came with my e-11 and i do not know what kind it is actually..all i know is it is not a Vandoren mouthpiece and i am going into Houston whenever this flooding is over and everyone can get out of there freakin house and actually go somewhere..hehehe and i am going to get a M-13 lyre by Vandoren i have heard that they are really great well personally i like almost anything Vandoren,,especially the V*12 reeds but that is just my opinion! Have a nice day!
~lizzie~

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 RE: Mouthpieces..
Author: Benny 
Date:   2001-06-10 21:28

I use a Gregory Smith (facing 1) and it is the best mouthpiece I have ever had. It works well with V12 #4 and I use a Bonade ligature. Don't use this mp if you intend to play jazz most of the time... try to find something more open.

Benny

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 RE: Mouthpieces..
Author: Sarah 
Date:   2001-06-10 21:56

I use a 5RV lyre with a V12 #3/3.5. I like it, its suits my playing well although im going to try a Portnoy one nxt month.

I have to say, it all depends on how you play and your setup. No-one can really say what would suit you best, just a case of finding the right one.

Happy hunting!

Sarah

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 RE: Mouthpieces..
Author: Robert Small 
Date:   2001-06-10 22:28

Probably less important than the brand is the tip opening and the facing curve.

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 RE: Mouthpieces..
Author: Robert Small 
Date:   2001-06-10 22:30

The above post should read: "Probably MORE important than..."

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 RE: Mouthpieces..
Author: jerry 
Date:   2001-06-11 00:33

Just bought a Vandoren M13 lyre and really like it so far (however, my teacher doesn't know it yet so I don't know if he approves).

~ jerry

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 RE: Mouthpieces..
Author: William 
Date:   2001-06-11 00:43

Robert is correct. My current mainline mp is my old Chicago Kaspar which I resurrected after years of laying idle in my extra-stuff drawer. It has a #14 original facing and plays well with 3.5 or 4.0 VD V-12s. Lig is a VD Optimum with the parallel rail insert. I also have a Greg Smith Chedeville mp #1* that is an excellant mouthpiece which I use occassionally for chamber and solo occassions. Fortunately, my reeds work on both mps so that switching back and forth is not a problem. My other "favorite" clarinet mp is my old Ithica "custom" Bay on which Charles copied my Kaspar facing. Good question--one that has been visited before, but still interesting for al the newcomers to this site i'm sure. Good clarineting!!!!!!!

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Jonathan 
Date:   2001-06-11 02:02

Viotto B3 with a French cut - and before that a Viotto B3 - I thoroughly recomend both and every one of the B3's (with and without the French Cut) of Viotto's that i've tried has been of an extremely high quality (for my taste and style) and as good if not better consistancy than any other handmaker of mouthpieces. Personally I love the ones with the French cut but the tone produced by all the B3s that i've tried has been nothing short of what I have wanted from a mouthpiece. It was quite interesting to note that when my teacher imported 4 or so the 4 of us that bought them each individually selected a different mouthpiece as the best for themselves without realising what the others had selected. Everyone that I know that plays on a B3 is very content with their mp and I absolutely adore mine. (I use a Vandoren Classic and Daniels reeds both size 4, and my ligature is a BG Super Revelation - picked after I got the mouthpiece).

As far as the technical aspects go I really don't have much of an idea. I believe that the B3 is (from memory) a combination of a Zinner facing with a vandoren b41 (i think) and is handmade. When Greg Smith was out here recently he measured it and said that it was similar in some ways to a German facing or opening or something (although it is a normal mouthpiece) and he found it very hard to blow through. On the other hand I found that his mouthpieces were too freeblowing for me - which he said would be the case after measuring mine. So as you can see it is best if you find something that works best for you and gives you the tone that you want.

Jonathan Farquhar

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Laur 
Date:   2001-06-11 02:23

I play on a Vandoren B45 - It's mandatory for my HS clarinet section.. I wanna get a new mouthpiece tho - possibly a crystal one ! hehe ;)

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Andy(the other one) 
Date:   2001-06-11 02:46

I currently use a E-11 with an Vandoren M13 with V12 3.5's and is wonderful!

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Jonathan from HK 
Date:   2001-06-11 15:06

My set up is Buffet RC (Bb and A) with Pyne barrels and Vandoren.

For softer reed (Vandoren traditional/V12 or Rico Grand Concert), most of the times I like to use B45 Lyre and B40 though occasionally, I use B45dot.

For harder reed, I used to enjoy M14 and put aside my M13 and M13 Lyre for sometimes. However, I have just got my new M15 from Weiner Inc. and preferred it over my M14. When I was using M14, I thought it was a very good mouthpiece which let you to play a harder reed with ease of blow. This is particularly important for Selmer Signature (my spare Bb) because of its stronger resistence. But sometimes, I need to complain that M14 sounds a bit thin or too bright.

Surprisingly, M15 on one hand lets you to play a harder reed with ease but still preserves a darker and resonance tone. Apparently, it has overcome my complaint to M14.

At this moment, I awaiting my V13 from Weiner Inc. which I believe is a mid-way between those M models and B models.

So far from my own experience, among these Vandoren models I should recommend the M15.

Good Luck.

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2001-06-11 16:42

I have a Kaspar Cicero 13 that I love a lot. Also, a Charles Bay (1984 model) Kaspar Cicero 13 clone that plays just like the Kaspar except a bit "creamier." I've ordered some Greg Smith wood mouthpieces that are due in today as well as a couple of his Kaspar models. So, I'll comment after playing those. I expect them to be great as well.

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2001-06-11 20:17

The Gregory Smith mouthpieces arrived today and I have selected two of his wood ones to keep. They are absolutely wonderful and I highly recommend them. I also tried 6 of his Kaspars and found them identical to my original--so if you want a great buy (at $200.00 rather than $500.00 or so) on a Kaspar clone---get one of his!

I am keeping a Cocobolo (rosewood) mouthpiece and a Grenadilla wood one. They have such creamy tones and are so responsive. I was blown away by the dynamics I was able to produce on these. You've gotta save up and get one!!!!

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: RJ 
Date:   2001-06-11 23:59

I use an H. Chedeville mouthpiece, Bonade Ligature, and R-13s. My back-up mouthpiece is a Kaspar Cicero.

RJ

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: hornlip 
Date:   2001-06-12 22:24

Someone above said more open mouthpieces are better for jazz. . . .I'm a sax player with no clarinet experience who recently bought (cheap) an old Buescher plastic clarinet. It works well enough for me to know I like it & I'm going to pursue clarinet more seriously. It came with a no-name mouthpiece & it's a dickens to blow through -- I use twice the lung I use on the sax. I would expect that a sax would blow easier than a clarinet, but I wonder if a lot of the resistance is in the mouthpiece? How hard should the thing be to blow?

Please advise a neophyte. . . .

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Linda 
Date:   2001-06-13 01:15

Vandoren B40 M13....

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Daniel 
Date:   2001-06-13 05:33

I use a variety of mouthpieces regularly.

My main mouthpiece is a 1960's Kaspar Chicago. It's a16 wonderfully refaced by Brad Behn. Has a relatively close facing but a short curve so i have to use Vandoren 3.5's or purple box 4's. I've also been using some GrandConcer Evolution 3.5's.

For chamber music where i still need a deal of power but fon't feel like using my Kaspar, i use an old 1920-1930's Buffet grenadilla mouthpiece. Has a very close facing with a long curve. Takes Marca 4's, or Vandoren V-12 4.5's, or similar.

For chamber music where i don't need alot of power, i use a 1940's A. Lelandais crystal mouthpiece. It's a 7 facing, which is a medium open facing. Being a crystal mouthpiece, it need softer reeds than normal mouthpieces. I've been using really old Mitchell Lurie 5's. But once those run out i'm not sure what else i'll use.

And on the side. I use a 1940's Gustav Langenus mouthpiece. This is a curious little bugger. Has his trademark "duck bill" (since he played double lip). Bay and Morgan have incorporated this curved beak in their mouthpieces in the past. Not sure if they still do. I'm still trying to find reeds that work consistently with this piece before i incorporate into my arsenal.

Daniel

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2001-06-13 12:59

Bay still does duckbill. I just got one from him. I use a mouthpiece patch with it just to give it a bit extra depth--although I also double lip and don't need one.

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   2001-06-14 05:25

I bought and tried these mouthpieces:
1)2RV
2)5RV
3)B40
4)B44
5)B45
6)Profile 88 for 5RV, B40
7)Kasper Cicero
8)Kasper Andover
9)Pomarico Grenadilla
10)Vandoren Crystal
110)Ralph Morgan
12)Greg Smith - Chedeville style
13)Greg Smith - Kasper style
And now I like above #13.

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Daniel 
Date:   2001-06-15 15:43

Hiroshi,

How many times are we going to have to tell you that it's Ann Arbor, not Andover as you repeatedly type. And his name was KaspAr, nor KaspEr.

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2001-06-15 17:09

And who made you the great arbiter of spelling? When's the last time you typed in correct Japanese?

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 RE: Mouthpieces...
Author: Daniel 
Date:   2001-06-18 23:28

No one Mark. But for someone who's owned Kaspar mouthpieces, regardless of the fact that several of us have corrected him in the past, i should think he would be able to spell a proper name such as Kaspar, Ann Arbor.

I overlook his poor grammar and spelling of other words, because 1) most English speaking peoples don't use proper grammar anyway, and 2) English is his second language. But for proper names, especially when mentioned above in the same thread, just bugs me.

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