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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2001-06-09 20:41
I hate to practice, always have always will. BUT--I bought "The Ultimate JAZZ Fake Book" Bb edition and am having the time of my life. It has helped my sight-reading, brought to life many old memories, and opened a new enjoyment. Younger folk needn't try this, half the fun is in remembering the old tunes, when and where you played them, and how good you were THEN!!! Ha! As they said on the "telly", "Try It! You'll Like It."
Bob A
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Author: Carl L
Date: 2001-06-09 22:46
Bob, I'm with you 100%! Who says playing isn't supposed to be fun? I get paid to play tuba (yup, laying down that bass track to "Closer Walk With Thee" for the thousandth time gets old...) and picking my banjo ( yeah, that "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" sounds about the same on the 700th pick...). But, like you, my clarinet is for FUN! Break out the Fake books and let her rip. Those 40s, 50s, 60s tunes bring back a whole lot of wonderful memories to us, eh, more "mature" players. By the way, kids, nobody said music isn't supposed to BE fun. When you stop enjoying blowing, picking, bowing, strumming...put down the instrument and find a new hobby.ENJOY your instrument. Now go practice!
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Author: mark pinner
Date: 2001-06-09 22:56
By the sound of it you will soon be finding a use for La Voz reeds. Keep up the good work and buy yourself a tenor to go with the clarinet.
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2001-06-10 01:13
Hey Mark, I'm confused. Are La Voz reeds good for Jazz or no good at all? And as for a Tenor, Never! That was my brother's bag. Me, I've "won" a Bass clarinet on eBay and Dave S... is reconditioning it for me. I can't wait to tie into some of these oldies but goodies on that. Respond re La Voz please.
Bob A
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Author: jenna
Date: 2001-06-10 03:07
I'm a "youngster" and I still love my Fake book. =)
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Author: willie
Date: 2001-06-10 03:47
I know what you're talking about here, Bob. Way back in middle school ( they still made Studebakers), I would come home and and do a couple scales and get bored QUICK! I'd then play a couple songs from our school stuff. Then I would get my stepdad's Bb fake book ( one of the original black market ones with hand notation) and go to town. I was already familiar with most of the old standards as I heard them all day at the house (also a studio) and at the gigs my dad played. The good thing was I was able to sight read very early because of the emense variaty of songs in the book. I still have the book and I still don't think I've played every song yet. Had it not been for this book and the variaty in it I may have quit band as some of the stuff they had at school just didn't "send me". By the way which book did you get?
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Author: clar21
Date: 2001-06-10 05:23
I'm in college, and I LOVE to fool around with jazz every so often. It gives me a nice breather from all of that harsh "You're doing this wrong," "You should be doing this." I guess everybody needs to play jazz. It's awesome! 
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Author: jerry
Date: 2001-06-10 11:17
" Way back in middle school ( they still made Studebakers), I........."
Willie, where I lived they still called it Jr. High when they were still making Studebakers.
Is this "....Fake Book" a song book (with music)? Is it transposed for clarinet. Maybe I could use it and "fake" my way to startdom.
~ jerry
BTW I took my first driver's test in a Studebaker and my first car was a Kaiser.
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2001-06-10 13:28
Bob Gardner points out there are more than one in Bb. Yes. I bought:
"The Ultimate Jazz Fake Book" Bb Editio9n (Over 625 standards and Jazz Classics-Music, Chords, and some Lyrics) Hal Leonard Publishing Co. $39.95 USD). This seems to be Book One as there is a Book Two, over 825 songs with none repeated from Book One and there is also a Broadway Fake Book. Hope this helps you have as much fun as I am.
Bob A
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Author: willie
Date: 2001-06-11 01:55
You're right Jerry, but some of the younsters may not be familiar with Jr. High. This old fake book is basicly the same as the one in C. My stepdad played proffessionaly since the twenties and knew all the old standards from years of repetition. He always carried fake books in C, Bb, and Eb with him in case one of the younger musicians was unfamiliar with a certain piece. He finally bought me the one I have about 1961 to keep me from taking his all the time. Nothing in this book was written after about 1955. Some of the stuff is hard to read as it is hand scribed (this is one of the old 'under the table" black market books). `The woodwind instructor out at the college went bizerk when he saw the tunes in this book and burned off many copies as he had been looking for some of them for years. As for the cars, I practiced for my license with my moms '52 Studebaker, but had to take the test with my dads '47 Fleetwood. Try parallel parking (no power steering) one of those tanks.
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Author: jerry
Date: 2001-06-11 02:18
Willie,
'47 Fleetwood, not too unlike a Roadmaster I drove a bit back then (belonged to my "first date") but same with the non-power steering issue -- took power to steer it.
So, if I get one of the Fake books, what should I look for, for clarinet? Or does it matter -- do they all have music for CL? Or, is it the Bb I'm looking for?
~ jerry
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2001-06-11 03:50
Remember folks, these books are copyright so woodwind instructors who burn off lots of copies are being naughty.
Bob A
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Author: willie
Date: 2001-06-11 06:45
Very true, Bob! Nut that was why some of the early fake books (with over a thousand tunes) were sold under the table to start with. None of the copyrights were taken care of. Most of the more popular standards are still in print and there are some copies of the less popular or unusual stuff here and ther if you look hard enough. But there are hundreds of tunes that haven't been printed for decades and finding even a remnant is tough. Some are gone forever.
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2001-06-11 21:06
I learned my jazz tunes mainly from the most famous unauthorized fake book, known as the "Real Book" and available who knows where. I have copies in Bb (Volumes 1 and 2) and also in Eb and in C. Unfortunately, these are, shall we say, not quite kosher? I hope I don't end up in the klinker just for having them. In my defense (?) I'll just say that I bought them when I was in my teens and didn't know any better. Besides, these are probably the best collections of those tunes actually played by most jazz musicians.
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2001-06-11 23:50
Dave, I saw a copy of that now called "The Real Little Fake Booki". Problem was they are dealing with the wrong generation. Might be good for the youngsters now as a learning tool, but the print and music was so small that most of us Geezers could hardly read it unless it was held up REAL close.
Bob A
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2001-06-12 15:38
Bob,
What you may have seen was a reduced-size copy of the Real Book. All of mine are full-size 8-1/2" x 11" books. Even you could read them! <LOL>
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