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 Messager - Solo de Concours (note check)
Author: GBK 
Date:   2017-11-06 23:02

Measure 12 - ascending triplet run has a (clarinet) F natural. Should it be an F#, similar to the triplet runs at measure 15 and measure 16?

Is it a misprint which I never fixed, or is it correct as written?

...GBK

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 Re: Messager - Solo de Concours (note check)
Author: kdk 
Date:   2017-11-06 23:42

(All pitches are transposed - not concert pitches). My intuition is that the F-natural is correct as printed. The harmony is ambiguous and the C# and D# follow it's pull, but I don't think anything in the progression suggests raising the F. The next two bars go back to C major (more accurately A minor 7, which is a tonic substitute). The passage at 15-16 *is* moving toward a resolution in G (V of C). and the F# in 16 is part of that, but there's no harmony-driven A# (which would be the analog to an F# in 12) or even G#. So I don't think 15-16 really parallels 11-12.

I only have the reprint in Southern Music's Sixteen Grands Solos de Concerts (edited by Bonade). FWIW, the first edition copy at IMSLP has the same note (F-natural).

Karl

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 Re: Messager - Solo de Concours (note check)
Author: GBK 
Date:   2017-11-07 00:02

Karl -

Thanks for the analysis. I'm performing it in a few weeks and hadn't read it through in a long time. The F natural sounded strange (although in the past I'm probably sure I always played it that way)

I have the same edition as you and never had marked a correction, but was wondering if I had just missed it.

...GBK



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 Re: Messager - Solo de Concours (note check)
Author: brycon 
Date:   2017-11-07 00:09

Quote:

The harmony is ambiguous and the C# and D# follow it's pull, but I don't think anything in the progression suggests raising the F.


If I remember, the harmony of that bar is an F augmented triad in first inversion (or an A augmented triad in root position--the charm of the opening section is that the music alternates between Bb Major and D minor by way of this augmented chord, which functions as the dominant of both keys).

At any rate, an Eb (clarinet's F) sounds much more harmonious with the augmented triad than an E natural, which clashes horribly with the piano's F. Also, as you point out, the music is moving back to Bb; E natural, then, doesn't make much sense for the phrase.



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