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Author: Mat Aschenberg
Date: 2001-06-08 20:01
Hello,
I have been studying Dixieland music. Often I hear musicians make the note "growl". Do any of you know how to do that?
Please tell me how.
Mat
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Author: ron b
Date: 2001-06-08 21:54
Just that, Mat. Growl as you play. Some like to describe it as humming or screaming rather than growling. Well... whatever works for you is what it is. I find that it works best and is more effective in the middle range but you can get the effect in any range you want.
- ron b -
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Author: Joseph O'Kelly
Date: 2001-06-09 01:53
It's referred to as "flutter tounging." I go about this effect by "growling" in the back of my throat. Just go "kkkkkkkkk."
I hope some of this makes sense.
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Author: Warren
Date: 2001-06-09 08:36
Hello, I'm pretty new to clarinets, but I believe the effect you are looking for is achieved by creating a vibration deep in the throat as is done in "throat singing." The result is a lower harmonic of the vocal sound which is then transmitted through the instrument. The same thing is done with a didgeridoo. I have done this with Recorders (which sounds really weird frankly), so I know it works, but it is a bit tricky to get the hang of it without changing your air flow. Think of the resonant sound you sometimes hear in deep Buddhist chanting. It is achieved this way... Worth a try anyway. The part that causes the growling is deep in the throat around the adams apple. It can make a person quite hoarse, though. Best, Warren
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Author: Allen Cole
Date: 2001-06-09 19:11
We're talking about two different effects, guys.
If the tone is broken up into nice, clear, even ripples, like dragging a stick across a pickett fence, it's flutter tonguing. This is what Junior Walker does with his sax on 'Shotgun'.
If the tone has a rapid, ragged-sounding modulation to it, it's true growling--the shouting/throat singing technic that most the replies in this thread are describing. This is a technique that you'll hear a lot of from Clarence Clemons on his sax, and Benny Goodman gives a pretty good example on his original recording of "King Porter Stomp."
Hope this helps,
Allen
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Author: ron b
Date: 2001-06-10 02:59
I've always referred to the effect as 'growling', other horn players I've known (yes, brass players do it too) referred to the effect as growling and I think the answer to Mat's question is that the effect is known as growling - using your throat.
Flutter toungueing is done stricktly with the fluttering toungue.
The way Warren and Allen describe growling is way better than my previous attempt. I've used the effect for years; one of those things that... well, you know, you know *how* to do it but -- telling someone else *how* is another matter. Lots of old timers, and no doubt some new timers, did it very effectively - Dodds(I think), Bechet, Hall, Goodman...
As with any other 'special effect' though, too much of a good thing will spoil it :]
- ron b -
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