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 Re: What is wrong with Buffet?
Author: brycon 
Date:   2017-10-27 18:12

Quote:

I'd guess the exact bore dimensions have changed a bit over time, based especially on the comments here of a retired tech who's measured some of their instruments. But right now, based on what they told me last May, the upper joint starts a lot wider and ends up narrower, and they're tapered rather than poly-cylindrical. I've played Prestige RCs and Prestige Elites, the latter now defunct, and found the S & Ss freer blowing and with more dynamic range. But I wouldn't take issue with your characterization of the sound, and don't know enough about their origin to question your comment on that, either. I've heard here, and the fellow who was helping me at the workshop also said, that Jochen worked with Uebel designing the bore for their Superior, which is not really an R13 knock off, so it seems likely that the R13 would have been more of a starting point for their French bore than a design goal.


Oops, should've been more specific. My Prestiges are the R13 variety (which I guess is just an R13 with an extra key and tenon rings?). And the S and S horn I tried out wasn't new--it was around 5 years old. But my tech, who's one of the best in NYC, measured the bores and told me the S and S was basically a beautifully made version of what I was currently playing on (but the S and S, of course, has some unique features, like the wrap-around register key).

By the way, Jochen's historical instruments are absolutely killer as well--incredible work (and without the hype and constant self-promotion of some other craftsman...).

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