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 Re: What is wrong with Buffet?
Author: dorjepismo 2017
Date:   2017-10-27 17:46

John,

"Yes, Buffet's quality of R13s has diminished since the 1960s but isn't that to be expected?"

Some of the changes in materials seem to have been for the worse, but I got an R13 Bb and A in the '60s and all my fellow students in college had them too, and all the same problems people talk about in this thread existed back then. The main difference is that we can get together and share information a lot more easily now, so more people know about their options. But they were just as "mass produced" then as they are now, there were still a lot of new horns on which the pads didn't seal, and the big names got to select from a collection the rest of us never saw. The biggest change since then has been the more expensive models, but as people have said, paying more doesn't guarantee that the instruments will actually play better.

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