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Author: qp
Date: 2017-10-27 05:24
This thread is ridiculous and there are too many irrational comments.
Yes, Buffet's quality of R13s has diminished since the 1960s but isn't that to be expected?
Why is there so much importance placed on the R13 clarinet?
That was 50 years ago and there are about 50 new models of clarinet released by Buffet since then - most of them priced above R13s. Just because Buffet says that an R13 is a professional level clarinet doesn't mean it is or has to be. It's essentially a student level clarinet at it's price. Look at flutes and oboes, horns or violins - if you're really serious about buying a professional level instrument for you life perhaps invest more money in a higher quality, higher (by Buffet's grading) grade instrument.
Secondly, the original poster rejected a clarinet because the bell would not fit and for some reason other people in this thread have fueled that fire. Just 1) grease the corks, 2) take wood off the tenon, 3) realise that wood is a natural material and isn't plastic - it swells and contracts.
Buffet doesn't hold certain stock for certain people - that is just ridiculous. Go to any country and the professionals there will be buying and trying instruments from those shops.
No, Buffet will not be gone in twenty years. That's absurd. Have you seen how many instruments they produce. Yes, Yamaha in good, their market is growing, but how many people play on them compared to Buffet? is it 1000:1? 10000:1? 1000000:1? And what was it 5 years ago?
Buffet probably sets up their clarinets exactly the same - firm tension and the joints go together in a factory that is probably standard pressure and temperature. Then they put in a box, go through customs, on a plane, to your airport, customs, distribution, freight, your shop, 100 people before you, played by you. Is it possibly that the thousands of changes in temperature and humidity, shipping, handling etcetera that maybe the keys have gone out of alignment?
Buffet did not "shove the new R13 model down our throats". That's absurd. They changed the design, minutely, and people still liked it, bought it.
If you don't like the product - don't buy it. Find a better one.
If you go to a shop where the instrument doesn't seal - consider the above. Then, if the shop is any good, they will fix those problems for you for free while you are there. If they don't - go to another shop.
Let's see what gets fired back at me for this.
John
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