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 Re: What is wrong with Buffet?
Author: mproper2009 
Date:   2017-10-26 16:48

Oh, thank you everyone for such interesting discussion.
Looks like I am not alone in my discovery, my teacher is very old guy who is not using internet or knows English, but his old Buffet from 70`s is way better horn then what I tested, but he now cracked on top joint, and he left with student horns. He is old fellow like some of you, and he strictly denies anything besides Buffet been named clarinet.

Side note I am not a professional player, not to any degree, I am just learning so CSG||| is way way over my head at this stage. But I finished music school years ago, and now back to music again, I've purchased CSG just because it cost me less then any intermediate clarinet and after my old Amati student clarinet I instantly had a difference.


But again point was how professional Clarinet is not sealing from factory, I just do not understand that. I was even not playing on horn to check it out, just close all fingers and put hand from other side, and use my mouth to suck air out of horn, and 5 horns where leaking.

It is not even intonation problem, it is basic set up, that should be done on factory. Then I was also surprised to hear that is expected, how then to select a good horn?

Prestige horns where properly set up and sound amazing to me, but that is because as tech in store said he repadded them completely, and they cost way more.

Ended up buying used horn, which was completely repadded and sound that R13 sound that my teacher likes, costing around 2K, and looks like never been used before, at least from visual standpoint but made in 2004.

Thanks everyone for your ideas

Now teacher enjoys it, but still from his words it more resistant then old R13.

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