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 Re: What is wrong with Buffet?
Author: echi85 
Date:   2017-10-26 05:03

It would be hard to get an honest assessment as to the categories fskelley brings up. I think it would be necessary to first even the playing field. You would have to have a tech on hand to fix any mechanical issues an instrument has. Once that has been done, I believe that it would be very hard to find outright duds. The single distinguishing factor would be how in tune the clarinet is with itself and how even the scale is.

I do have to say that some people believe that instruments leave the factory in much better condition than they arrive. I'm not sure if I buy into it but I do think there is some truth that shipping changes things.

It's also important to realize that we are dealing with an organic material. There are unknown factors that contribute to why a clarinet plays different than another even if they are built to the same specifications.

Buffet is riding on it's reputation. Professionals have a very specific idea as to what they want while as amateurs and students are less sensitive. That's not to say that certain instruments are flat out bad but that some people are happier buying instruments that others wouldn't. The problem is that people keep buying and playing Buffet. If the clarinet community really wanted change, they would stop buying their instruments. As long as they sell, Buffet has no incentive to improve the condition of their instruments.

As for the differences in models, the major difference between an E-11/E-13 and an R-13 is the tone holes. There are tone hole inserts for the intermediate models while R-13's have the tone holes drilled into the bore itself. I would argue that more time is put into the keywork of an R-13 as well. I can usually tell when I'm playing an E-11 because certain keys feel too high or low.

I don't think you can call the R13 an intermediate instrument. I've played recent R13s that were better than their higher end models, in my opinion. I think Buffet realizes that they can't only make R13s and grow economically. Newer models endorsed by big players is a way to increase revenue. Not unlike how car manufacturers come out with a new model. It doesn't necessarily have to be much of an improvement, it just has to be new. Apple runs on this model.
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