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 Polishing bore of an R13
Author: Clarineteer 
Date:   2017-10-19 01:23

Does anyone know where you can get the bore of an R13 polished. A fellow tech has a customer that is asking.

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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: TomS 
Date:   2017-10-19 20:16

When polished, it takes material away, therefore changing the bore specifications, probably not for the best. If it looks dull, might just need cleaning and oiling. Of course, if your bore has shrunk, you may have it reamed and polished by an expert ...

I cringe watching the videos on Buffet clarinet production ... the bore hand polishing looks so random and uncontrolled ... can't possibly be any precision in this process.

I test played a Leblanc Concerto a long while back and asked Tom Ridenour (the designer) about the bore being a bit rough looking ... his reply was "we don't polish our bores out of spec." ... he should know ...

You can see milling/reaming/drilling marks on the top joint of my Buffet greenline. Probably doesn't matter ... or maybe even a good thing. Brad Behn textures the inside of his MPs ... claims the brushed surface improves air flow ...

So, a shiny bore might not necessarily be the best way to go ...

Tom

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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: Steven Ocone 
Date:   2017-10-19 22:17

I polish bores on occasion. It is not complicated. Any experienced repair technician should be able to do it.

Steve Ocone


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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2017-10-20 02:50

Properly done, any material removed by polishing would only be measured in microns. Undetectable to most precision measuring instruments.

Some of the best playing clarinets I have come across have not had highly polished bore surfaces, often exhibiting quite a noticeable grain pattern.

Many student plastic clarinets have ultra shiny plastic bores. So unless the bore is exceptionally rough I would leave it alone.



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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: saxlite 
Date:   2017-10-20 03:31

Seems to me that polishing a clarinet bore is a waste of time, as there are many interruptions to a perfectly smooth bore - they are called TONE HOLES!

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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: kdk 
Date:   2017-10-20 06:52

Caroline Smale wrote:

> Many student plastic clarinets have ultra shiny plastic bores.

Apparently, Buffet has gone in the other direction with its Prodige and Premium entry-level clarinets - the molded bore is textured "to aid in projection." I'm not sure of the rationale one way or the other, but, evidently, Buffet isn't giving much value to a shiny polished bore.

Karl

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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: Clarineteer 
Date:   2017-10-20 09:33

Thanks

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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2017-10-22 17:00

In my entire career, 51 years as a pro player, I've never had the bore to any clarinet polished. Every once in a while a repair man would oil the bore, some did, some didn't. Even that is controversial. Good luck.

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: TomS 
Date:   2017-10-22 18:18

Yeah ... probably correct ... seems Buffet would be well aware of any real problems caused by had polishing the bore ... material removed might be just a few molecules thick. I just was going with what Tom Ridenour said ... I guess really aggressive polishing COULD be an issue ...

I have heard that the baffle area just below the tip rail on the MP is really critical when it come to polishing ... Charles Bay maintained that this area needed to really shine ...

Tom

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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: jbutler 2017
Date:   2017-10-29 04:06

I'm not sure what you mean by "polishing" but I wax bores all the time. I clean very thoroughly and then wax. I found this product to be great to clean and apply wax to the clarinet bore. Nicely made and disposable:

http://tinyurl.com/yb8lcf66



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 Re: Polishing bore of an R13
Author: Clarineteer 
Date:   2017-10-29 16:32

While doing research I came across this on Sherman Friedland's Clarinet Corner. Mr. Friedland wrote the following.
According to the great repairman Mr. Hans Moennig Buffet R13 clarinets produced from late 1956 through the late 1960's were made of better wood than the instruments being made today.The wood was cured longer and the bore was finished and sealed with a special French polishing technique which extended the instruments playing life and retarded wood cracks. These instruments can be identified by the flat spring under the C#-G# or left hand little finger key.

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