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 Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: thereallukasj 
Date:   2017-10-18 01:50

On the Youtube video by Buffet from several years ago about the launch of the Senzo Alto Saxophone, at 0:58 seconds on the video there is a scene where a man is talking about the sax and instrument parts are clearly visible in the background. There is a Contra alto neck in the frame as well as a significantly larger (what looks to be) Bb contrabass clarinet neck. Buffet currently makes a Contra alto but no contrabass so this could be coming soon! Anyways just wanted to post my findings and am interested to hear any opinions.

Thanks,
Lukas Johnson



Post Edited (2017-10-18 02:17)

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: mtom 
Date:   2017-10-18 04:23

Do you have a link to the video?

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: thereallukasj 
Date:   2017-10-18 04:45

https://youtu.be/b1A5UrFI0UY

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2017-10-18 04:57

I see what you mean, That is definitely a Bb contrabass neck

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2017-10-18 04:58
Attachment:  Screen Shot 2017-10-17 at 8.54.22 PM.png (128k)
Attachment:  IMG_3191.JPG (52k)

I see what you mean, That is definitely a Bb contrabass neck. Buffet made at least one all metal Contra Bb around the 1930s but as far as I know they have not made one recently. See attachments.

-Jdbassplayer

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: thereallukasj 
Date:   2017-10-18 05:23

I have heard about the metal contras Buffet made... My reason for thinking it is recent is it looks identical finishwise to the new bass clarinet bells and sax parts in the area. Id say this was a pretty big find!

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: thereallukasj 
Date:   2017-10-18 05:44

https://youtu.be/Hu57xEnbXqY

Here is a link to my youtube channel and a video I just uploaded about this topic with the video evidence from Buffet and why I think it is real. Don't forget to check out my other clarinet videos and subscribe to my channel!

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2017-10-18 06:01
Attachment:  Screen Shot 2017-10-17 at 9.17.52 PM.png (630k)

They could also be parts left over from Leblanc, Buffet did purchase the Leblanc factory after it burned down. Look at the large brass cylinder directly to the right of the contra alto neck, That looks very similar to the lower joint on my Leblanc contrabass and its not conical so it can't be a sax part.

-Jdbassplayer

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: thereallukasj 
Date:   2017-10-18 06:14

Could be, it is a little interesting that those particular parts were hanging with other sax parts for this video (a hint maybe). I guess we won't know for a while as their products take several years to develop and a contrabass would theoretically take longer.

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: Klose 2017
Date:   2017-10-18 06:57

It is interesting to notice that ,ore and more new compositions use contrabass nowadays.

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: thereallukasj 
Date:   2017-10-18 06:59

I agree! Love to play my Leblanc low c contra that I proudly restored myself.

Lukas Johnson

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2017-10-18 07:26

The video was uploaded to YouTube about four years ago. Who knows how long before that it was shot. I guess it's possible that they are actually working on a contrabass for longer than that and there's still no sign of it anywhere...

It could be a Leblanc part, it looks very similar. The curves look slightly tighter but hard to say from those photos and video.

There's one Buffet metal Bb contrabass in a museum here.



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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: thereallukasj 
Date:   2017-10-18 18:07

It does look similar to Leblanc parts but I plan to scan other videos to look for evidence. I think they aren't leblanc parts because frankly, why are they hanging there and why are they unplated? The hanging question could be because they wanted to make a "cool shot" OR they could be there for an R&D purpose. It is still strange I think that there are many other currently used parts like bass clarinet bells that are also unplated.

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Bb contrabass clarinet?
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2020-09-11 05:38
Attachment:  Buffet contrabass clarinet.JPG (19k)

So here's one of the only photos of the most recent Buffet contrabass prototype. This instrument is made of rosewood like their bassoons and the brass components from the photos above make up the neck and extension sections of the instrument. From what I understand the instrument has 3 independent manual register vents operated by the left thumb. Don't get your hopes up though because I've also heard that this prototype was finished years ago and it does not seem like Buffet will be producing a Bb contrabass anytime in the near future unfortunately.

JDbassplayer

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