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 Should a Bass clar. in the Clarion sound like a Soprano in the Chalumeau
Author: mtom 
Date:   2017-10-16 02:40

Title says it all. Opinions are greatly appreciated, I'm conflicted on what to think of it

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 Re: Should a Bass clar. in the Clarion sound like a Soprano in the Chalumeau
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2017-10-16 02:52

Not at all, bass clarinets have a much wider bore giving them a very rich and mellow tone compared to the clarinet. In fact every member of the clarinet family for the most part has its own distinct tone. This is one of the reasons why instruments like the alto clarinet, basset horn, contra alto clarinet and C clarinet are used even when their range is covered by the more common members of the clarinet family.

-Jdbassplayer

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 Re: Should a Bass clar. in the Clarion sound like a Soprano in the Chalumeau
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2017-10-16 03:22

Simple answer - No
The clarinet playing in it's chalumeaux register generates a quite different harmonic spectrum than the same instrument does in it's clarinet register.
The same holds true for the bass clarinet.

The relative strengths of the fundamental harmonic to it's higher ones varies between registers as also does the effect of the smaller amount of even harmonics that exist even in a clarinet tone.

So comparing first register of clarinet and second register of the bass is rather an apples vs oranges comparison.



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 Re: Should a Bass clar. in the Clarion sound like a Soprano in the Chalumeau
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2017-10-16 08:53

It's not really a matter of "should". Sometimes it does (more or less) and sometimes it doesn't. Both cases are ok... or not.

It's like a million other questions that every musicians asks themselves when they play. I wouldn't look for a "global" answer. Even if you looked at 20 pieces and determined it shouldn't, I'd still ask myself that question the 21st time and decide these type of things based on each case.

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 Re: Should a Bass clar. in the Clarion sound like a Soprano in the Chalumeau
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2017-10-16 16:46

As a long time professional symphonic bass clarinetist, retired, I always strived for a rich full tone up there. I never thought about sounding like a clarinet in any register but one time I was flatttered when someone told me my high register sounded like a clarinet. I took it as a compliment because I felt he meant it was not typcal of a "weak" tone up there that he's often heard. I've heard some sound like a saxophone or like they were using a number 2 reed, get my point? Just rich and full, like a fine bass clarinet tone.

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Should a Bass clar. in the Clarion sound like a Soprano in the Chalumeau
Author: Mojo 
Date:   2017-10-16 16:47

I think it is something to shoot for. To me there will always be a difference but it does not have to be a large difference.

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 Re: Should a Bass clar. in the Clarion sound like a Soprano in the Chalumeau
Author: TomS 
Date:   2017-10-16 17:37

No, just similar. Timbre differences are important can be used effectively by the composer. Neither should an E-flat sound exactly like the B-flat for the same note pitches.

Tom

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 Re: Should a Bass clar. in the Clarion sound like a Soprano in the Chalumeau
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2017-10-17 22:32

Take for example the bass clarinet part in Grofe's Grand Canyon Suite - Grofe deliberately wanted the "white" sound of the bass clarinet's upper register as opposed to the thicker sound of a soprano clarinet playing the same pitches - it really makes a difference in the effect.

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