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 Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: Shostakovich 
Date:   2017-09-04 06:33

I'm a big fan of the legere European signature clarinet reeds and have been using them exclusively since they came out. I'm aware that they are based on soprano saxophone reeds.

Apparently Ricardo Morales uses legere soprano saxophone reeds for his solo work (at least in the adverts) ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0BmXMoPFHs ).
If the sax reeds feel similar to the European cut, I think it might be a good way for me to save a few dollars. Any thoughts/experiences with synthetic saxophone reeds on clarinet? I intend to put one in with my next order.

Cheers.

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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2017-09-04 06:43

I find the soprano sax reeds more diffuse-sounding and less responsive (stuffier) than the Euro Signature clarinet reeds on my mouthpieces. YMMV

Karl

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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: Shostakovich 
Date:   2017-09-04 12:51

Thanks for your thoughts. I wonder if that could be down to variation in reed hardness - I wonder if a No. 3 clarinet reed is as hard as a No. 3 sax reed.
But I'll give it a try.

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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: echi85 2017
Date:   2017-09-04 16:30

I've heard good things about using soprano sax reeds on clarinet from a few people now. One of my colleagues told me he prefers them over the Euro cut reeds. I have yet to try them myself, but it seems there's something there to look into.

I am a Legere artist. When I contacted them about the strength of these reeds, they told me they run a quarter strength harder than the Euro cut reeds. A friend of mine told me a 3.25 soprano sax reed on a B40 lyre seemed about right. The 3.5s were too hard.

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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: Shostakovich 
Date:   2017-09-05 03:04

That is an extremely useful insight - I find 3.5 Euros effective, but moving up to 3.75 gives me the stuffy, poor response described by Karl. Sounds like a 3.25 sop. sax reed would be appropriate in that case.

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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2017-09-05 03:41

How do cane soprano saxophone reeds work on clarinet? Have any of you tried them?



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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: Shostakovich 
Date:   2017-09-06 12:48

I have not tried cane sax reeds unfortunately - I've read elsewhere that they can help produce a brighter, louder, jazzier sound (but that's all second hand information).


I can now share my thoughts on the legere soprano sax reeds, however, as the 3.0 I ordered arrived much earlier than I expected.

I'm very, very impressed:
Dimension-wise, the reed widths are identical, with the sax reed having a much shorter stock. The European cut appears to have a slightly steeper ridge in the heart. The soprano sax reed feels as though it is made from a less rigid plastic (I put this down to me ordering the "standard" version, rather than the "studio" edition). A consequence of this is that the tip of the saxophone reed is slightly thicker than that of the clarinet reed.

I'm achieving a comparable tone with the saxophone reed, and articulation is just as easy and clear as the European cut clarinet reed. I think the saxophone reed has the edge when it comes to dynamics, I can play softer and more loudly without losing timbre while using that reed.

I'll probably keep buying soprano sax reeds now, as they are $20 cheaper for me per reed, and appear to perform well.

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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: HANGARDUDE 
Date:   2017-09-08 16:58

Seabreeze,
I personally have not tried a cane soprano sax reed on a clarinet, but have heard a saxophonist friend(and only a beginner on clarinet) playing one. He was using a very soft reed (Vandoren ZZ 2.5) on a stock Buffet mouthpiece and a B12 plastic horn. While I wouldn't say his sound suits classical, or 'legit' playing, it was decent enough for the jazz repertoire.

Josh


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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: Jordan Selburn 
Date:   2017-09-09 09:31

Conversely, I recently tried a Legere European Cut clarinet reed on a soprano sax. The horn and mouthpiece were borrowed, and before buying boxes of soprano reeds trying to see what would work, I slapped the clarinet reed on to see if I could make do. It worked so well that I used it for the run of show.

Jordan

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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: donald 
Date:   2017-09-20 10:56

Hi there, in March Guy Legere gave me a sample of a Legere Signature Soprano Sax reed to try out. I was very sceptical- I've had some good results over the years with Legere (especially the first Legere I had back when they were launched in 1998) but thought a Soprano Sax reed was a crazy idea.
In fact, I found it to work quite well, and have been pretty much using ONE reed for teaching (about 26 hours a week) since March of this year. I didn't feel that it was quite good enough for gigs, but found myself getting a bit lazy with reed preparation/breaking in, and have used the Legere several times for professional concerts and rehearsals (for example, when rushing to a rehearsal where I knew I'd have little time to warm up/try out reeds- it was very convenient to use the Legere). I have used it for a recording of a Beethoven Piano concerto, Mendelsson Elijah, clarinet quartet recording (Ken Wilson variations) and for contemporary music.
I do feel I can get a better sound from a really good cane reed, but there is also something very beguiling about the reliability of the RESPONSE using the Legere. When playing with this reed, it is possible to have a real confidence that when I get that air going I KNOW how the reed will react....
So,
I have attached 3 recordings of my playing in the last 6 months. Let's see if you can guess which ones are playing the Legere Soprano Saxophone reed?
dn



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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: donald 
Date:   2017-09-20 11:16
Attachment:  Rossini excerpt.mp3 (1579k)

Here is a solo recital, I'd just switched back to clarinet for the final piece after playing a sonata on Bass clarinet.... The flat high D is my fault, I have a joke with the pianist that I do something slightly different every time at that spot- and just overdid it a bit this time ;-/
Legere or Vandoren?



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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: donald 
Date:   2017-09-20 11:17
Attachment:  testing testing.mp3 (773k)

A cold winter saturday morning in June, and a friend in another city had asked me to drop by the local music store and try out the clarinets there- I recorded myself switching around them all, and sent it to her so she could hear the different clarinets (a Buffet buffet). I'm using the same barrel on them all- a Muncy 65mm plastic A clarinet barrel, this little snippet is just the last 2- an R13 and my Festival.
Vandoren or Legere?



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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: donald 
Date:   2017-09-20 11:18

and finally... (nope that didn't work)



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 Re: Legere soprano saxophone reeds on clarinet
Author: donald 
Date:   2017-09-20 11:23
Attachment:  Caveclarinet2.mp3 (1942k)

A friend and I hiked to a cave at Whatipu (at the head of the Manukau harbour, google it for some dramatic scenery) and were trying out recording clarinet in different spots to test the cave acoustic. Plan is eventually to record some contemporary music there.... my fingers were COLD so we'll do it around a fire!!!!!!!
Legere or Vandoren?



Post Edited (2017-09-20 11:48)

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