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Author: Matt74
Date: 2017-08-26 01:45
I bought a clarinet to fix up, but when I got it discovered the barrel was cracked in several places (even the metal ring!). It's not really fixable. Postage to retun it will end up exceeding the price I paid.
It's a Normandy 4, all wood, straight Noblet/Vito style trill keys. All keys have their own posts. SN# 80725. "Normandy 4" on a shield are on the top and bottom joints. "Normandy" without a "4", is on a shield on the barrel and bell, with an extra line. See pictures. 64mm barrel. The bore seems to be 14.92mm.
What are good inexpensive replacement options with the same dimensions? (Would Noblet or Vito barrels work?)
Thanks.
- Matthew Simington
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Author: gwie
Date: 2017-08-27 11:09
I'm sure you could get almost any standard replacement barrel in 64mm/65mm to work on it, try a few maybe? I've always liked Muncy's Synthetic Diamond barrel at $69 as a replacement barrel for older instruments that my students acquire through that auction site or that local classifieds site.
Post Edited (2017-08-27 11:10)
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Author: Ursa
Date: 2017-08-27 13:18
The barrel from a Vito 7212 or 7214 will work very well.
The wooden barrel from an early Normandy Special or original 1948-type Normandy is usually 67mm or, rarely, much shorter. Avoid using these models as donors for a replacement barrel.
A barrel from a B-flat Normandy Model 4. 5, 5P, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 14P, or 208 will work perfectly.
Were I you, I'd search a leading Internet auction site for a Normandy Reso-Tone (this is the Model 14) that has broken or chipped body joints and a good barrel. Look out for pitted plating on the tenon rings. You shouldn't have to look very long to find one of these for about $20.
Wooden donor horns with messed-up body joints can also go for cheap, but there's a good chance you'll end up with another cracked barrel in the deal.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-08-27 14:01
There's no reason you can't use a Noblet or Leblanc barrel as they're all part of the same company.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Matt74
Date: 2017-08-28 00:14
Thank you!
I would like to make my own, but for now I will dream about getting a lathe. I'd also like to begin collecting donor horns....
- Matthew Simington
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-08-28 00:28
If you do plan on making your own barrels, do be aware the barrel bore isn't the same as the diameter of the bore measured at the middle tenon (which is the official bore measurement published in catalogues).
The top joint bore widens at the top end, so far wider than the official bore measurement (taken from the middle tenon) and the reason why tuning rings should have an inside diameter over 15mm instead of the same diameter as the nominal bore size of the clarinet as that will cause a constriction in the bore if the wrong size one is used.
The barrel bore is often a tapered bore instead of being absolutely parallel-sided, usually narrower where it meets the lower socket and wider at the upper (mouthpiece) socket, so therefore a reverse conical bore but only by fractions of a millimetre, so not really detectable just by looking at it.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Dan Shusta
Date: 2017-08-28 11:02
Matt74,
I have a Normandy 4 barrel in excellent condition.
Please send me a personal email.
Dan
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Author: Matt74
Date: 2017-08-29 03:37
Chris, I measured from the barrel/top joint tenon. I did not consider that the barrel bore might not be a cylinder. I would love to have some proper bore gauges.
- Matthew Simington
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