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 New Yamaha CSGIII - intonation
Author: Dabaka11 
Date:   2017-08-23 03:45

After some trying and searching, I've finally bought a Yamaha CSGIII. It seems to be a great horn, altough it will be the time that decides. I'm still getting used to the slightly different style (it's hybrid: boehm system but German(ish) bore).

The instrument itself intonates pretty well, although I have a few problems. The C5 note is very sharp. Can it be corrected somehow? I tried it with my previous clarinet, an E11 and the intonation is fine there.

My other problem is that the E4, F4 and F#4 notes are, somehow unstable. As if there was some fluid somewhere, but actually there isn't. This latter is not a great problem, the notes are pretty nice and well intonated, also I do not really think it can be really heard from a few metres, but still bothers me. I may go back to the shop with it.
As I mentioned, the horn is relatively new (less than 2 months old), I still only play 15-20 minutes a day, no more.
It might be my mouthpiece, although on the E11 it's fine. I play a Kückmeyer Solist M.

Otherwise I love the Yamaha - I still can't believe I have one :D



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 Re: New Yamaha CSGIII - intonation
Author: Ed 
Date:   2017-08-23 04:53

I would have it checked for leaks.

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 Re: New Yamaha CSGIII - intonation
Author: shmuelyosef 
Date:   2017-08-29 03:59

Saw one of these in the store today and gave a quick blow...had never seen a clarinet with the little key at the bottom for venting the low E/B; nice placement on the LH Ab/Eb key, though...very natural and comfortable.

The vent key seems like a complicated way to avoid making a little vent hole in the bell. Why haven't those become more popular?

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 Re: New Yamaha CSGIII - intonation
Author: dorjepismo 2017
Date:   2017-08-29 09:18

Yosef,

They are becoming fairly common in German system instruments, with mostly straight bores where the 12ths can be seriously out of tune on the low end. Backun also has them now on French bore instruments. They're preferable to the vent hole in the bell because the vent hole doesn't care which end of the 12th you're playing. I used to play a set with vent holes, and they didn't really do the job. Talked some about this with J. Seggelke, a designer in Germany, who said that the value of the correction vents depends on the bore and the length of the instrument. He also said that not that many people can reliably hear whether your low F and E are too low. If people can hear, then the correction keys are highly useful so you won't be noticeably out of tune. People say that the GS series has a more "German" sound and, therefore, bore, but since Yamaha doesn't give you measurements, I don't know what that really means.

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