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 Re: Logic vs Gut? Picking new Clarinet
Author: gwie 
Date:   2017-08-09 10:57

>Harder to find stores/repair people that really know how to fix it

This is not true. It doesn't have any wacky extra keywork or strange implementations of the basics mechanism Any competent technician is able to service it.

My last three students all chose a new CSVR over an equivalent new R-13 for a couple reasons:

1. Cost - A CSVR with silver-plated keys is a thousand dollars less than the equivalent R-13 with silver-plated keys.

2. Intonation - Don't take anyone's word for it. Sit down with an electronic tuner and check where most of the pitches land...the CSVR has fewer irritating intonation quirks than the R-13, especially in the throat tones.

3. Yamaha's keywork and fit/finish is much better "out of the box." This high level of consistency is found throughout their entire product line.

Personally, I'm done going to stores for my students and having to play through dozens of instruments to find a "good one." Yamaha produces instruments that play consistently from one to the next, so that musicians don't waste valuable time playing an instrument lottery. If your instrument is lost or damaged, you can easily acquire another that will behave pretty much exactly the same.

Use their dealer locator here:
https://www.yamaha.com/paragon/dealerlocator/

I did a search on a random San Jose zip code and saw about a dozen Yamaha dealers within a 15 mile radius.

Call ahead to the shops and see if they have the CSVR in stock, or whether they can order you one to try.

I'll admit, I've gotten a few unhappy reports from some folks who have been trying to get in touch with the Buena Park Atelier. Without getting into the specifics, my student and her family said to heck with Yamaha and ended up going to RDG Woodwinds instead. One thing that Yamaha could improve on is how that particular aspect of their customer relations functions, or whether they should even do it at all, and just try to get their instruments out to more shops in general. They have some fairly stringent requirements for their authorized dealers, which makes it difficult for smaller stores to stock their product.

I do want to say though, don't discount a used R-13! In the past, Buffet used better wood for their R-13 line, wood that today is held in reserve for their higher-end models. You might want to contact Jonathan Copeland, who restores them to like-new condition. Then you can be on the Buffet bandwagon, AND pay a much better price. :)

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