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 Quick Fingering Question
Author: WhitePlainsDave 
Date:   2017-08-07 22:25

When playing scales in 3rds that feature an E flat and a G natural in the key signature, does anyone have better fingers for moving from [Eb6] to [G6] and back, that for purposes of fingering ease, intonation, and voicing, they believe prove superior to the 2nd entry for [Eb6] and the 11th entry for [G6] here

http://wfg.woodwind.org/clarinet/cl_alt_3.html ?

Thanks.

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 Re: Quick Fingering Question
Author: zhangray4 
Date:   2017-08-07 22:47

Not a pro, only an amateur... but try using your preferred fingering for the altissimo Eb and use the 6th entry for altissimo G on the website you mentioned:
http://wfg.woodwind.org/clarinet/cl_alt_3.html

Works great for me, slurred or articulated, but it might not be for you

-- Ray Zhang

Post Edited (2017-08-07 22:49)

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 Re: Quick Fingering Question
Author: brycon 
Date:   2017-08-07 23:28

(I am a professional) For most things, especially scales and arpeggios, I play an "overblown" B for high G (left index finger, thumb, register key, plus right hand Eb). It's the same partial as the other altissimo notes, making it a better match in terms of resistance and pitch. On some clarinets, it can be a tad flat. But just add the chromatic B nat/F sharp sliver key on the right hand to raise the pitch. Switching back and forth between high Eb and G, you could leave the right hand sliver key pressed.



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 Re: Quick Fingering Question
Author: GBK 
Date:   2017-08-07 23:46

brycon wrote:

> (I am a professional) For most things, especially scales and
> arpeggios, I play an "overblown" B for high G (left index
> finger, thumb, register key, plus right hand Eb). It's the same
> partial as the other altissimo notes, making it a better match
> in terms of resistance and pitch. On some clarinets, it can be
> a tad flat. But just add the chromatic B nat/F sharp sliver key
> on the right hand to raise the pitch. Switching back and forth
> between high Eb and G, you could leave the right hand sliver
> key pressed.


That suggestion is probably best. Another choice (which also stays in the same partial) for fingering ease is to play regular Eb:

TR oxx / xo|o (Eb)

and go to the F# to G trill fingering (G fingering choice #13)

TR oxo (rh#4) / ooo (Eb)

The pitch is slightly low but in a fast passage, is hardly noticeable.



BTW -As one who has contributed numerous fingerings to the clarinet fingering site http://wfg.woodwind.org/clarinet/cl_bas_3.html
beware - there are still many uncorrected errors in some of the high note fingering choices.


...GBK

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 Re: Quick Fingering Question
Author: zhangray4 
Date:   2017-08-07 23:47

Brycon thanks for the confirmation. That's what I was basically saying. I just referenced the website since I didn't come up with the fingering. Glad to find out that we use the same fingering for the high G a lot of times. It works on my instrument extremely well.

-- Ray Zhang

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 Re: Quick Fingering Question
Author: ClarinetRobt 
Date:   2017-08-07 23:58

WPD....I agree with my colleagues. I use standard fork high Eb with overblown high B for G. My biggest reason is so I can keep the sliver key down for my high G that runs a tad flat...the fork key brings the pitch almost perfectly.

~Robt L Schwebel
Mthpc: Behn Vintage
Lig: Ishimori, Behn Delrin
Reed: Legere French Cut 3.75/4, Behn Brio 4
Horns: Uebel Superior (Bb,A), Ridenour Lyrique, Buffet R13 (Eb)

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 Re: Quick Fingering Question
Author: brycon 
Date:   2017-08-08 01:14

Quote:

Brycon thanks for the confirmation. That's what I was basically saying. I just referenced the website since I didn't come up with the fingering. Glad to find out that we use the same fingering for the high G a lot of times. It works on my instrument extremely well.


When I was a kid, I learned the first high G on that list (labelled "basic"), probably because it doesn't require much finesse and is sufficiently sharp to make up for students' questionable altissimo chops. But it, and most of the "longer" fingerings, are incredibly piercing. Going from the common middle-finger high F sharp, which is usually resistant, covered, and slightly flat, to that basic high G, which is very sharp and peels paint off the walls, doesn't work.

I do use a longer fingering (two forks--index and ring fingers on left and right hands, thumb, register key, and right-hand Eb--appears to be absent from the bboard fingering chart) when I need more power. It works well, for instance, on the rips toward the end of the Firebird variation--comes out easily, nice resistance, and lets you stay open with the embouchure.

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 Re: Quick Fingering Question
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2017-08-08 17:54

There are several ways to play the Eb and many ways to play the G. You can check my fingering chart on my website and experiment to find the combination for the best response and intonation. I know one way works better on my Buffet and a different one on my Selmer. Depends on your instrument and voicing.

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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