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 Fingering Practice
Author: BGBG 
Date:   2017-07-26 02:03

I keep on having trouble fingering a B4 and C5 from the preceding A4 quickly enough. I slowed down the speed to 54bpm and still have trouble making it quickly enough without the squeak.
Wondered is there some exercise or technique for practicing this other than just making the note over and over by itself as I am doing now. Have discovered the fingers are slightly off the holes and am trying to find if I can feel this and coordinate them. Thought there might be some technique for this. Maybe, maybe not. If so I would like some tips. Thanks.

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 Re: Fingering Practice
Author: WhitePlainsDave 
Date:   2017-07-26 02:40

First off, sometimes it's not always the fingers. I'll explain.

You may be covering all that the fingers need to cover (then again, you might not) and still have issue playing these long pipe notes (this means the air doesn't come out until the bottom or near bottom of the instrument) because you are not taking in enough mouthpiece.

One way to test is to see if you're having trouble with the [C#5] C#5 as well.

So how much mouthpiece is enough mouthpiece?

The answer is to take in mouthpiece until you invariably squeak. Now back off a micron at a time. When you stop squeaking, that's your place.

Next, why not consider practicing something bit easier, say C4 to C5 [C4] to [C5]?

It's easier in the sense that the left hand will already be covering the tone holes for the C4 needed for the C5/B5. Then try D4 to C5, etc., working your way to A4 one finger at a time.

Something in most of the etude books called interrupted scales is useful as well. This is an exercise where you, in a particular key signature, play 4 notes in a row going up or down, following but a new set of 4 notes where note "2" in the previous set becomes note 1 in the new set during ascent.....and vice versa. Those are useful here.

Next, cover all fingers for B4 and then take off just the ones you need to play A4. Then take off some more fingers to play the A4 until you achieve your desired goal.

Keep those fingers curved and close to the instrument.

BTW: nobody trills this A4 to B4 gap, known as crossing the break....the 2 upper side trill keys on the upper joint, played by the right hand are used depending on the note desired.

Music may have you take these notes fast during an ascent/descent, but special fingers handle going back and forth between them quickly.

Try starting with the B4 and going to the A4, and THEN back.

Sometimes the instruments pads can have leaks and those leaks manifest themselves the more pads you have down. You can rule that problem in or out by taking either or one of the joints an put its bottom end up against exposed skin, like a thigh during the summer when shorts are worn.

Cover all the holes and blow and suck through the open hole. Was resistance achieved in both directions? If so that's good.

My first teacher, when I was young (before electric) and giggled use to tell me to practice my "Abe...eees...." as if I was practicing doing something to some guy named Abe.

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 Re: Fingering Practice
Author: Philip Caron 
Date:   2017-07-26 05:39

I like what you said about trying to feel the fingers, but watching in a mirror can help. You might be pulling off the rh holes when reaching with the pinky.

Get the angle between your rh fingers & instrument right, which can be a bit of an individual matter. Same for the curl of the fingers and what part of the finger pads cover the holes. It should feel natural and without constant strain, though the stretch & coordination of the pinkies could take some time to acquire.

Experiment starting on B4 or C5 and going to A4 and back, leaving the rh fingers down. The A4 should still sound ok, though intonation may be slightly off.

Check the rolling of the left index finger between the A key and the top finger hole. Doing it wrong enough can cause squeaking. It's not a hop, and it's more of a roll than a slide, though tbh I also slide just a little. This finger operation mustn't disrupt the finger next to it. It has to time with the other fingers AND thumb. Watch in a mirror or eyeball down the clarinet.

Also in the mirror, watch your embouchure. Your jaw etc. should not move for these intervals. (True for most intervals.) It doesn't take much movement in this area to squeak in any context.

Practice these intervals and similar ones daily. You can get them as smooth and beautiful as silk.

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 Re: Fingering Practice
Author: BGBG 
Date:   2017-07-26 06:30

Thanks very much. I will begin trying all these things. Just did not know what to do.

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 Re: Fingering Practice
Author: JonTheReeds 
Date:   2017-07-26 14:27

I don't know about others, but it has taken me several years to get this right, and I still get it wrong from time to time. For me it was definitely an issue with the fingers not covering the holes all at the same time or not being relaxed enough, then it was a problem with air flow that I had mangled to make up for poor fingering technique. A work in progress, but it's slowly getting there

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 Re: Fingering Practice
Author: kdk 
Date:   2017-07-26 18:27

Poor finger coverage or air flow as noted in other posts are often the culprits. Another one that can be involved is tightening the embouchure as you go up over the break. The result can be that you pinch the reed off as you make the upward slur. One way to learn to avoid this is to practice going down over the same interval, then back up. You can accomplish two things - your fingers will start out covering all the holes and provide a reference point to return to, and you will start out with an embouchure that produces a good clarion note, which you can keep stable as you go down and return up.

Karl

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 Re: Fingering Practice
Author: JonTheReeds 
Date:   2017-07-26 22:37

kdk wrote:

> Another one that can be involved is
> tightening the embouchure as you go up over the break.

Yup, that needed sorting after air flow was sorted! I am a slow, clumsy idiot

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