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 Copies of Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece?
Author: Wookie001 
Date:   2017-07-18 13:42

Do you know if there is a mouthpiece for Bb Clarinet that plays like the Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece (or other Kaspars) or is copied from it?



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 Re: Copies of Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece?
Author: rmk54 
Date:   2017-07-18 16:16

Greg Smith makes both Cicero and Ann Arbor style mouthpieces.

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 Re: Copies of Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece?
Author: Ed 
Date:   2017-07-18 16:38

Fobes, Grabner, Lomax, Behn, Smith, Wodkowski and likely others I am forgetting all make models which are inspired by or are a sort of tribute to those mouthpieces. In my experience, none play quite like a Kaspar. That is not meant to sound negative as some play better than Kaspars I have tried. Any two mouthpieces will have their own characteristics. In my experiences, the old Kaspars can vary considerably due to variations in the blanks and material.

Of the makers I mentioned, all have give qualities and all have fans who will tell you they are the best. You will likely get lots of recommendations, but I would suggest contacting a few of the makers and see what they have to offer. See if you can get some on trial and pick what works best for you.

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 Re: Copies of Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece?
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2017-07-18 19:32

Mr Richard Hawkins does a great job of making what I think is a Kaspar style facing. The RH model is very much a replica of the Kaspar 11 which is a superb facing. I played on a Cicero 11 for my first years of clarinet playing..until it got lost or stolen. Alas I love Hawkins work and can recommend it anyone

David Dow

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 Re: Copies of Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece?
Author: zhangray4 
Date:   2017-07-18 19:41

Bob Bernardo, also the USA distributor of the Steuer reeds who posts on here regularly, is making these mouthpieces called "Vintage 1940 Cicero" mouthpieces. His goal is to not only recreate the Kaspar and Chediville mouthpiece at a lower cost but also to improve them. By improving them, he does not mean to boast that he is better than the other mouthpiece makers. He is modifying it slightly so that it fits better with the modern-day clarinet. He has been creating mouthpieces since 1984, and continually improves them to get as close to perfection as possible.

I happen to have one of these, and I've played on it for about half a month. I was actually going to just comment on how these mouthpieces sound, but since you brought it up, I will give my thoughts on Bob's "Vintage 1940 Cicero" mouthpiece.

First off, Bob was a very pleasant person to work with. He first sent me a sample of the mouthpiece, and after I told him that I felt it sounded a little too bright and also felt a little too resistant, he asked me to ship the mouthpiece back to him, while he started to work on a new mouthpiece for me to suit my needs. He did this without hesitation, and he promised to make me satisfied.

I got the final version, which had a tip opening of 113 since it is what I am used to playing on with my other mouthpieces. As soon as I got it, I played on it for about an hour, switching between different reeds and trying my old mouthpieces as well. Well it wasn't hard to realize that there was a significant improvement in sound. I am able to get a warmer and rounder sound, the type of sound that has been in my head all the time but fail to produce on the clarinet. It doesn't mean you get a darker sound; you still get a sound that can project when playing in a large band/orchestra, and it sounds "alive," so to speak. But the best way for me to describe it is that it removes some of the"edginess" off of the sound and evens it out a lot. Not to mention that it was smooth through the entire range of the clarinet. Previously my altissimo range was too bright while the throat tones sounded airy and muffled. Now my altissimo range notes come out rounder and warmer, and the thorat tones are pure and clean.

If you like the sound of the old Chedevilles and Kaspars, I think you should talk to Bob. He is an extremely friendly guy to work with, and will give you the type of sound you want from your mouthpiece. Its cheaper than getting an antique mouthpiece, and you get to be friends with a very knowledgeable man that can help "customize" your mouthpiece to fit your style.

I mean you lose nothing by trying out the mouthpiece, but you might miss out if you don't try it out. Why not contact Bob and ask for a sample?  :)

-- Ray Zhang

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 Re: Copies of Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece?
Author: Wookie001 
Date:   2017-07-19 01:08

thanks for your recommendations :) I'll have a look at those mouthpieces

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 Re: Copies of Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece?
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2017-07-19 01:58

Thank you for the comments, the Vintage have a Gennusa and Marcellus sound. Same baffles and bores as I have their mouthpieces!


Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces


Yamaha Artist 2015




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 Re: Copies of Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece?
Author: shmuelyosef 
Date:   2017-07-22 04:42

I have a Grabner K-14 that I like a lot that was presumably inspired by the Kaspar pieces. How do the "Cicero-inspired" pieces differ? I notice that several manufactures have both 'K' and 'C' type mouthpieces listed with the same tip openings and facings and both are made with Zinner blanks...what, therefore, is the difference/magic?

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 Re: Copies of Kaspar Cicero mouthpiece?
Author: Ed 
Date:   2017-07-22 05:52

This info may help:

http://www.woodwind.org/clarinet/Equipment/MBL/Kaspar.html

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