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Author: laup123
Date: 2017-07-16 21:25
I have a Signet 100 with the black lacquer finish that is looking blotchy. Anyone who has stripped several using Limolene Based Lacquer Stripper to expose the natural wood below. I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a particular specific product and any suggestions on the process?
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Author: MichaelW
Date: 2017-07-16 21:48
With an instrument of a different brand I found the laquer went off quite easily with white spirit (methylated spirit). I would recomment to try this first. If the laquer, however, was on a two pot (PU) basis this would not work.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-07-16 22:39
White spirit and methylated spirits are two very different things - white spirit is used as a turpentine substitute (good for cleaning paint brushes used with oil based paints) whereas methylated spirits is alcohol usually with a purple dye and another additive to induce vomiting (and is used to dissolve shellac to make French polish).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: MichaelW
Date: 2017-07-18 00:20
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Sorry, I mixed something up. Of course you can remove an alcohol based paint- vernis, shellac matting, cellulose laquer etc. with ethylic alcohol, which I used, denatured (methylated) or pure, or isopropylic alcohol, not as well with turpentine or white spirit ("Terpentinersatz"). Sometimes it is astonishing what appears from under the black laquer (Foto!)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-07-18 00:57
Nice looking bell! It's a shame they felt they had to disguise it with black varnish.
It's not just a long-standing German tradition to lacquer all the joints to make them look uniform - that was also done by companies like Boosey&Co and Hawkes&Sons who used black lacquer to hide the paler coloured cocus or rosewood bells on their clarinets from the late 1800s to the first few decades of the 1900s. You can often see the lighter coloured wood showing through where the lacquer has been worn, scratched or chipped.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: jbutler ★2017
Date: 2017-07-18 03:58
I just take off the posts and use 0000 steel wool. A little rubbing and it comes right off.
jbutler
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-07-18 19:10
The thick paint/lacquer is also used to hide some significant defects in joints, so chances are after stripping, you'll find filled-in worm holes or small patches of decay.
The last place you want a worm hole is in a socket as that can cause it to split if it's just below the socket ring. If the maker has done their job, any worm holes in joints can often be placed so a tonehole will go through that same spot.
Several years back I rebuilt an old German 6 key piccolo for a board member - he requested I remove the lacquer from the body joint. Once I did, there was an oval patch like that seen on Jupiter on the lower part of the body joint as well as a long crack running in the same location. So it's common for imperfections and defects to be hidden with a good coating of jet black lacquer.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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