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Author: jose
Date: 2001-06-03 16:31
Im new here but.....Im currently using a vandoren b45 and i WAS using V12 3's but my tone just wasnt dark enough for me. So i sstarted using Daniel's 3 1/2's which i got a darker tone but i was having to bite down which prohibits getting a nice free sound even though my tone darkened up. I guess the reed is too stiff for the mouthpiece for myself right? Well i was wondering what mouthpiece would u suggest then if say i wanted to use 3 1/2's or 4's? Your comments would be most appreciated
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-06-03 16:34
I think you've got it backwards. People select a reed for the mouthpiece, not a mouthpiece for the reed. The strenght of the reed doesn't really have a lot to do with "darkness" - the mouthpiece, ligature, barrel, and clarinet are the pieces that (traditionally, at least) make the real difference in sound.
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Author: jose
Date: 2001-06-03 17:14
youre right....... YOU ARE suppose to match reeds with mouthpieces. BUT i guess you could say im not satisfied... like all of us are. So i guess my question is what mouthpiece would help better my tone quality then the B45? I like it alot but my sound is still too bright for my likings. Sorry i guess my request DID come out wrong. Thank you for the correction.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-06-03 18:19
jose - you need to start trying mothpieces on a regular basis to see if any are giving you the souind you are looking towards. This "bright" and "dark" thing goes way too far - people don't really know what you mean unless they can hear your description.
Also, make sure that you make a good recording of what you sound like - you may be surprised at your current tone. What <i>you</i> hear when you're playing is not necessarily a good indicator of what the audience hears.
Don't get stuck in the "mouthpiece morass", the "seeking of the holy grail".
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Author: Bill
Date: 2001-06-03 18:46
Is the a strong correlation between mpc tip opening and facing length, and a dark and bright tone? The B45 is "open" (119.5) and I find it bright, whereas the 5RV Lyre at a tip opening of 109 is darker - same reed strength.
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Author: jose
Date: 2001-06-03 20:41
interesting Bill. I think i will true the 5rv and the lyre and ive heard some good stuff about the m13 series too. Youre very right about the seeking of the holy grail Mark. You have a great website here! I have amade a recording and i did sound better than i thought but i still fond my tone a little too tin like or may i say metallic. Ya all know what i mean lol. Thank you and any more suggestions would still be appreciated.
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Author: Anji
Date: 2001-06-04 01:45
B45 is so free, blowing (designed to be easily played) that you don't have any real resistance to work with.
I like the M13 (profile 88 facing) with a #3 - #3 1/2 V12.
They are rarely balanced, so you might need to test a few or touch up the one you have. Try Brenda Siewert (regular poster here) she might have a few stock examples rolling around.
Forget this Bright and Dark rubbish. Look for flexibility in a mouthpiece, and develop tone color from something you can modify as you play.
anji
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Author: William
Date: 2001-06-04 14:35
Greg Smith and Richard Hawkins also make great custom mouthpieces that will produce a variety of good sounds--they are both accessable and easy to work with (info available in the Sponser section)
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2001-06-05 03:14
I think myself 'darkness of tone' means a lot of harmonics elements.
This cannot be acquired by players' efforts. That's what I learned after long years of seaching when I tried Chadash barrel and Greg Smith mouthpiece set.
1)Reverse tapered Chadash barrel DID this. Better to be reamered with the mouthpiece.
2)Greg Smith mouthpiece (Chedeville and Kasper style) DID this.
His Chedeville type mouthpiece has a choice of angled walls used ordinarily for
German style mouthpieces and may be a worth trial.
His blank material Zinner certainly made the sound deeper and
gave better projection.
To me they were a magic.
As to reed, if you like V12 style, Alexander Classique may be worth trial. 100% usable without any adjustment by my experience. Both are based on the MORRE reeds now unavailable. It has thicker heel(3.15-3.2mm not ordinarily 2.8mm) and narrower cut(German cut). Typically, thicker heel gives more projection and Geman cut gives freer vibration.
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