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Author: saxlite
Date: 2017-06-07 02:30
I own several Selmer Centered Tones- it has been suggested that most current mouthpieces are designed to play best with today's smaller bore clarinets. I could use suggestions as to which mouthpieces are a better match for these nice old big bore CT's.
Jerry
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Author: jdbassplayer
Date: 2017-06-07 04:08
Old Woodwind Co Steel Ebonite mouthpieces work great and are very easy to find used. You could also look for an old Selmer HS or similar.
Are you considering a new mouthpiece because of intonation problems, or because someone told you a large bore mouthpiece will work with your instrument? I use to have a Centered Tone full boehm that I used a Ridenour mouthpiece on, and that mouthpiece is definitely a small bore mouthpiece. Despite this the combo played well in tune. How is your current setup playing?
-Jdbassplayer
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Author: shmuelyosef
Date: 2017-06-07 08:10
I measure a lot of mouthpieces (just for fun...I'm a serial metrologist)
I also have two Centered Tones (one fully enhanced) that are my main clarinets (also have a Series 9).
I have also noticed that some mouthpieces work and some don't on these clarinets...they all play pretty well, but the intonation gets squirrely with some.
I haven't really noticed that the end bore of the mouthpiece is the most important thing...I suspect it is the total volume (similar to saxophone mouthpieces). The top bore on the CTs barrel (at the mouthpiece) ~15.28mm...R-13s are ~15.0-15.1mm. Lots of clarinets are much smaller at the mouthpiece end of the barrel.
The end bore of student mouthpieces are generally large:
Ridenour BE10 15.26mm
Morgan ProTone 15.23mm
Fobes Debut 15.10mm
All 3 play pretty good on virtually every clarinet I have tried them on, but none of them match my tonal concept.
For whatever reason, I have found that mouthpieces with middle of the road bores, but with some 'hollowing' of the chamber, and long lays (distance from the tip to where the reed first touches the table) work the best (for me) on the CTs, both with intonation and tonal concept.
Examples of the above are:
Fobes 4L
Grabner K14
Portnoy (BP02 or BP03)
Morgan RM-15
Vandoren B45 (although these are highly variable...I have 2 that I like, but have probably played a dozen that didn't work)
All of these also have tip openings in the 1.15-1.20mm range.
I have not had good luck with mouthpieces that have tip openings below about 1.05mm.
Probably too much information, but I've been playing Centered Tones for a while and mostly use the Fobes or the Portnoy.
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Author: Pastor Rob
Date: 2017-06-07 09:45
I have a Selmer B* in an oval on the table that was worked over for me by Scott Kurtzweil. It plays very well on my old Selmer Full Boehm which is big-bored. It has a tip opening of 1.05.
Pastor Rob Oetman
Leblanc LL (today)
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2017-06-07 18:49
I've had good results with Brilhart mouthpieces on large-bore clarinets.
Tony F.
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Author: saxlite
Date: 2017-06-09 05:07
Thanks, guys. I'll have Fred Rast reface one of my old Selmer HS* and see how we do.
Jerry
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Author: Matt74
Date: 2017-06-10 02:11
My understanding is that most mouthpieces ARE large bore mouthpieces. I thought this is why the need for inverse taper barrels arose. I thought the large bore/volume of the older mouthpiece designs created intonation problems when used with newer narrow bore clarinets, and this was corrected by adding a taper to the barrel.
Perhaps someone more knowledgeable will comment....
- Matthew Simington
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