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Author: Ben Shaffer
Date: 2017-04-23 17:58
Quick question... I have 2 plastic horns a Vito V40 as well as an older Vito Reso tone 3
I keep both Horns in great shape
I use both the VanDoren M13 as well as the M15 Mouthpieces.
I use a Legere Classic Plastic reed and a Rovner Mark3 Ligature.
I play in several church bands and have to say both of these Horns sound quite nice and are right in pitch with the other Players in these bands.
I'd like to sound even better, maybe louder and more sonorous.
Would a Scott barrel accomplish this?
At $65 they sound like a very nice deal.
For what I do I'm not willing to buy other more expensive wood Barrels
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Author: Ursa
Date: 2017-04-23 20:59
No experience here with the Scott barrel, but I've played the Vito V40 and 7214 with the Ridenour Ivorolon barrel and it does add some nice sonority to the sonic presentation--and does so without messing up the generally accurate tuning of these models.
Note that the M13 isn't known as a "loud" mouthpiece.
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Author: Merlin_Williams
Date: 2017-04-24 00:28
In my opinion, a barrel change isn't going to accomplish what the OP is looking for.
I think a mouthpiece/reed change is more likely to do it.
Jupiter Canada Artist/Clinician
Stratford Shakespeare Festival musician
Woodwind Doubling Channel Creator on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/WoodwindDoubling
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Author: TomS
Date: 2017-04-24 08:37
Not sure if the Scott barrel (model AA2) works well with or optimally with other brands and models of clarinets. I think it was designed with the Buffet R13 in mind.
I've just received a Scott barrel (after a long absence without one) and it works quite well in smoothing and opening up the sound, and seems to improve intonation as well.
BTW, I have a couple of Rico Reserve X0 MPs that I like, and would like to use, but they are too sharp and overall not the best intonation for me ... After a few hours of testing this evening, I have found that the 66mm Scott with two or three 0.5 mm tuning rings between the MP and top of barrel, seem to do the trick ... not the same as pulling the barrel and adding tuning rings, it seems. I am gonna try a 66.5 or 67 mm barrel and see how that works ...
If you want to try a Scott barrel, better hurry, Mr. Robert Scott is 92 years young and might just decide to stop making barrels and start making fishing lures (smile).
And one more thing ... the M13 and M13-lyre are not really the best for lots of "loudness" and projection ... the Reserve X0 is actually better in this respect.
Tom
Post Edited (2017-04-24 08:41)
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Author: donald
Date: 2017-04-26 09:11
I'm a professional player who uses Buffet Festival and R13 clarinets. I have a Vito resotone clarinet from the late 1970s that I use as my "car clarinet" and for when I practise outside (most of my holidays involve camping, and I'm very fond of playing the clarinet in the bush during the summer months, which is a bit eccentric of me but people often really enjoy coming upon me in the middle of a mountain range playing Mozart!).
The barrel that came with the Vito is horrible, over the years I've found every one of the "after-market" barrels I own to be an improvement (Moennig, Lomax/Zinner, Chadash, and Schwenk und Seggelke). None of these barrels converted my Vito into a Buffet Tosca, but they certainly improve it. Lately I've been experimenting with synthetic barrels and have had good results with Fobes, Behn (hard rubber), Wes Rice and Muncy plastic/delrin barrels. I found the Muncy and Behn barrels helped intonation but not the sound so much (I think it was a case of brightness overkill). The Fobes, which is a bit dull on my Buffet Festival, worked nicely on the Vito... The Wes Rice also plays VERY well- though I've been using this barrel a lot on my other clarinets for the last month so it may just be that I'm used to it...
- If you want to improve your "loudness" there are lots of things to try other than a barrel, but the Muncy barrel really does have a bit of "Kick" that the others lack... it just felt too "pinchy" for me on the vito.
I hope this was helpful. These Vito clarinets can play quite nicely- I'd survive on a desert island if this was my only horn, but the barrels suck.
dn
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