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 Why do Buffet barrels get stuck?
Author: jonathan.wallaceadams 
Date:   2017-04-05 16:53

I'm getting both of my barrels on a recently bought Buffet adjusted so that they don't get stuck on the tenon. I'm just wondering WHY this occurs. Thanks!

Just an aspiring student.
Buffet Tradition
Mpc.: Hawkins "G", Barrel: Moba, Reeds: Reserve 3.5+

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 Re: Why do Buffet barrels get stuck?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2017-04-05 17:14

Wood is a natural substance and is affected by changing humidity levels. Therefore when humidity levels increase, so does the cellular structure of the wood when the cells expand.

This is what's causing the barrels to bind onto the tenon rings, so have them correctly fitted so they neither bind to the tenon rings nor wobble whilst playing. Only a tiny amount of wood should be removed to correct this.

This is normal for all new clarinets, it should be expected and also covered by the manufacturer's warranty and put right at no cost to yourself provided you don't do anything yourself that could do more harm than good.


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 Re: Why do Buffet barrels get stuck?
Author: TomS 
Date:   2017-04-05 20:51

As your wooden instrument gets accustomed to your climate, you may need to trim the wood down a bit. Here in Arkansas, the humidity is terrible in warm weather ... an outdoor gig is an issue for wood clarinets, especially if fairly new.

I have a new R13 Greenline, and I noticed that the joints tend to stick a little, especially when the instrument is cold. I don't know if the cork is changing or the cork grease is just thicker or the Greenline material is changing somehow. I use cork grease each time I assemble the clarinet.

On the other hand, my Ridenour clarinets made of hard rubber seem to be less prone to this sticky joints minor annoyance.


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 Re: Why do Buffet barrels get stuck?
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2017-04-08 12:25

The craftsmanship is not carefully watched. The wood needs to be trimmed down about 0.16". About 1/64" or so. Buffet should wet the wood then cut it to the right size. This would totally prevent this from ever happening again. One Quality Control meeting would solve this.

Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces

Yamaha Artist 2015

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 Re: Why do Buffet barrels get stuck?
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2017-04-09 09:18

>> The wood needs to be trimmed down about 0.16". About 1/64" or so. <<

I guess 0.16" is a typo (about 4mm)?
Anyway the exact amount varies and depends on each clarinet. Removing 0.4mm (about 0.016") from the diameter is a lot. It is really better to check the exact amount needed than any random number without checking the specific clarinet. In most cases I don't remove as much as 0.4mm. I remove the least amount possible in some cases (maybe 1%-5% of the times, just guesstimating) it needs to come back, since even making it borderline too loose, it keeps changing and binds again some months later.

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 Re: Why do Buffet barrels get stuck?
Author: TomS 
Date:   2017-04-10 19:33

If you buy Backun barrels from Kessler music, they will check the barrel sockets and have a special reamer to use, if necessary. Mine all fit just fine on Yamaha and Buffet.

The supplied barrels with Ridenour clarinets fit just fine and stay that way and seem to be optimized for the acoustics of the clarinet. I haven't found an aftermarket barrel that makes the Lyrique Libertas work any better, IMHO ...


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