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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2017-03-12 01:16
https://www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/film/353#watch
Nicely done, and lots of close-ups of some interesting key work. They're careful not to show or talk about the synthetic reeds, though.
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2017-03-12 04:31
It is hard to believe the current waiting time for Kronthaler instruments is over four years...
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Author: ClarinetRobt
Date: 2017-03-12 18:37
Curious if anyone had this problem...I registered, but still unable to watch the 7+ minute video. Is there something I'm missing?
~Robt L Schwebel
Mthpc: Behn Vintage
Lig: Ishimori, Behn Delrin
Reed: Legere French Cut 3.75/4, Behn Brio 4
Horns: Uebel Superior (Bb,A), Ridenour Lyrique, Buffet R13 (Eb)
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2017-03-12 19:01
Robert, they say it's free rather than by subscription. Very sorry if it's not working, though! I did test it on another browser. You might be able to get there from the home page.
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Author: faltpihl ★2017
Date: 2017-03-13 01:04
Did you ensure that you were logged in after registering?
I believe I had to go back and forth between emails and the website a couple times before I had everything finished and was logged in to view the video.
Great stuff
Regards
Peter
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Author: kdk
Date: 2017-03-13 01:15
Did you reply to the email your registration generated? You have to confirm your email address before you get access.
Karl
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Author: seabreeze
Date: 2017-03-13 04:01
Very enjoyable seven minutes and thirty-three seconds. After hearing him on the Tosca solo, I'd like to hear his Siegfried Idyll. Between 1:43 and 1:45, the etching on the mouthpiece pretty clearly shows the words "Play Easy," even though the red coloring has worn away. So he's still playing a Play Easy German mouthpiece by Kuckmeier. Does anyone know the bore size of the Kronthaler clarinet he's using?
I wonder if his observation that greater resistance in a clarinet requires more breath support and therefore produces a darker, rounder sound applies generally to all clarinets or is just the approach used by some Viennese makers to achieve that tonal quality.
Post Edited (2017-03-13 05:01)
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2017-03-13 06:45
seabreeze, in fact he uses an Austrian Playeasy mouthpiece and Kronthaler is located in Germany (thus not a Viennese maker). In general, the bore size of Viennese instruments is about 15mm.
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Author: seabreeze
Date: 2017-03-13 08:35
Yes, Kuckmeier distinguishes 3 different types of Play Easy mouthpiece, French Boehm, German, and Austrian. The Austrian has the longest, closest facings. I meant to distinguish Ottensamer's mouthpiece from the French clarinet models that some American players use on their Boehm clarinets, and I forgot that Kuckmeier also listed the Austrian model in a separate category.
Ottensasmer seemed to be speaking about what makes a clarinet Viennese, and since that would follow in the tradition of Viennese makers like F. Koktan, who made Leopold Wlach's and Viktor Polatschek's clarinets and Hammerschmidt, it did not seem amiss to mention "some Viennese makers" even if Kronthaler is German, because he is following a Viennese tradition in making that model clarinet.
Viennese clarinets have generally had large bores (Wlach's Koktan was 15.2 mm), but since Ottensamer stressed the pains that Kronthaler took to fit the clarinet to his own body, playing style, and wishes, I wondered whether that meant that he might have deviated from the usual bore measurements in crafting this special pair of instruments.
Post Edited (2017-03-13 08:47)
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2017-03-13 09:07
Kronthaler, as well as some other workshops in Germany, makes both standard German and Viennese instruments. Actually the difference between these two models is minor and players can make the change easily.
Traditionally, Viennese instruments differ from German ones in multiple aspects. E.g, traditional Viennese instruments never use Oehler mechanic and also no double F/C key.
Even though Ottensamer mentioned this pair was specifically made for him, I believe the modification is minor as any major change of bore size would require a dramatic change of key work thus a long R&D time. To me, it is unnecessary to distinguish German and Viennese instruments. They are just like R13 bore and RC bore; some call R13 as American bore while RC is European bore but they are both French clarinets.
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2017-03-13 09:50
Johanna Kronthaler also makes a Boehm system clarinet. as anybody ever tried one?
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2017-03-13 17:22
I wrote them about the Boehm instruments, and received a reply in which Otto said the bore choices were German, about 14.7 mm, and Vienna, about 15 mm. S&S sells their German system instruments in narrow German, wide German, and Vienna, the last of which is 15 mm. (I wrote Otto back asking about stopping by to try one of the Boehm instruments and didn't receive anything back, so they might not have a sample you can try there, at least unless you're principal in a major orchestra). I also emailed the Kückmeiers about mouthpieces for reform Boehms, and Carina mentioned that the Austrian mouthpieces are about 15.4 mm, but they have customers who successfully play them on German bore instruments. Not sure how that all fits together, but these people obviously know what they're doing.
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