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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2016-05-19 15:31
The Tosca definitely has a bad crack that runs through the throat A hole. On the Selmer, it might just be open grain in the wood. On the Selmer, it might be enough to make sure the grain is sealed on the pad seat.
You can't be sure until someone like Chris looks at your clarinets and tests them for leaks.
I'm sure there are excellent repair shops in Poland. Check with your local symphony players to find someone.
Ken Shaw
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Author: tucker ★2017
Date: 2016-05-19 16:28
Does anyone know if there are insurance companies in the US that will insure woodwind instruments for cracking losses?
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Author: jdbassplayer
Date: 2016-05-19 17:09
tucker wrote:
> Does anyone know if there are insurance companies in the US
> that will insure woodwind instruments for cracking losses?
Considering that this occurrence is so common, I doubt it. When buying a clarinet you have to consider the cost of repairs down the road, including crack repair.
-Jdbassplayer
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2016-05-19 17:30
Insurance companies won't cover cracks as they aren't caused by accidental damage, loss, fire or theft as it's in the nature of the wood and the climate that will determine if a clarinet is going to crack or not, but new instruments will usually be covered by the manufacturer's warranty within a certain period from when it was originally bought and will more likely replace the cracked joint instead of repairing it within their warranty period.
I charge £50 for each carbon fibre band, pin and tonehole bushing on cracked instruments which includes filling in the crack, so two bands and a tonehole bush will be £150.
As I live in a town with a very recent and sizeable Polish immigrant community, I'm sure there'd be no problem in arranging some way of getting it to me (and returning it) should you ever want to do that.
The only other place where I'd look into having it repaired on the continent and much nearer to Poland is either Germany or Austria as they have a lot of specialist clarinet makers and repairers there (and better/more direct transport links).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: alvi
Date: 2016-05-21 01:14
Thank you for answers, Great Job Chris!! It looks very nice!
This carbon fibre band is stable? or even if you pull of the material the wood in this places is poor? It is no more cracks in this places?
In Poland mostly of method is a streaching crack for more and later putt there some glue and latter they a shaping this places.
Which method is better and more stable?
Greetings!
W
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2016-05-21 01:28
I haven't had any clarinets I've banded come back to me for further crack repairs several years down the line, so I can only assume they're still doing well.
But I have seen one that was banded by another repairer that had reopened in the same places not long after it had been banded - this one (a Buffet RC) was cracked right down the front and back.
Maybe they didn't get enough tension on the carbon fibres as they wound them around the slot or the tension had gone as they used epoxy which is slow setting compared to superglue which has instant grab.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: alvi
Date: 2017-02-18 01:53
Hello Guys!
That is me, I was repair my clarinet 4 times from my last post. My clarinet Tosca was in the repair man 4 times, last time was one week before my solo concert with orchestra, and again after 2 days was crack again - from this time I was playing with crack, but different days different open this crack.
I'm tired of going 400 km time to time, or sending my instrument.
It is all the time in the same place. Also I'm playing a lot of concerts and everything so I don't have time to don't have my clarinet for 3-4 days - it is the time to repair my clarinets :/
My question is, Can I repair it myself with super glue?
Or Mr. Chris where do you live? maybe I will be have to send to you my clarinet.
any advice?
greetings
W.
Post Edited (2017-02-18 02:03)
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2017-02-18 03:07
In my experience glue is definitely better than carbon fiber or pin and I had the almost identical crack as your Tosca. My repairman used glue only and now it is perfect.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2017-02-18 06:22
Per the insurance - you can basically insure everything. Professionals regularly check with insurers about how to protect their stuff from breaking, being stolen, walking away, spontaneously combust, etc.
There's a slight catch, however: the price tag. That kind of a Happy Meal doesn't come for free.
--
Ben
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-02-18 21:05
Wojtek, I live in the UK (on the South Coast of England), so that will mean a lengthy and cold journey for your clarinet to endure when sent by post.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: alvi
Date: 2017-02-18 21:29
It is possible to glue crack when is open? After some hour of practicing?
The glue from Music medic is the same like super glue? I ' m wondering about the glue. Which will be the best?
My professor from Sweden told me, that I have to learn to repair my clarinet crack myself. So I watch a lot videos about repair crack and I know how to do it a little bit.
Greetings
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-02-18 23:07
Apply the glue to the crack and it will wick deep into it. Then apply small amounts where the glue has been drawn in leaving voids running along the crack until no more glue can be drawn into the crack. Then leave it to dry for around an hour.
You can sprinkle wood dust onto the glue when it's still liquid and that will make it cure faster and act as filler. Then file down, paper up and polish the filler to blend it in with the rest of the joint surface.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: alvi
Date: 2017-02-18 23:33
Thank you for advice, but should I apply glue after playing when is open, or trying to fill crack by glue when is dry?
And what about glue, should I buy glue in special music shop or can I use normal glue like super glue?
Greetings
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-02-18 23:48
Apply superglue while the crack is still open as you can't apply it once it has closed up. I use regular superglue or thin superglue, but the thin superglue has a much faster curing time so you have to work fast. So regular viscosity superglue will be fine. Gel superglue is too thick.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: alvi
Date: 2017-02-21 15:39
Thank you Chris,
Now I'm looking for good glue
http://www.bsi-inc.com/hobby/insta_flex.html
It will be ok?
Or search something different?
Greetings!
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2017-02-21 19:09
I had some of this stuff and it was a bit too thick for crack filling. Just use a cyano-acrylate superglue such as you can probably buy at your local supermarket or filling station.
Tony F.
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