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Author: mmatisoff
Date: 2016-10-05 16:26
I'm been searching the web for an answer to this question: which, if any, of the Yamaha clarinets is best for jazz -- wide bore like SEV or tight bore like CSG (CSV-R)? The dearth of information on the web describing the differences is miniscule at best. I like the sound of my student Yamaha 20, and the Leblanc Opus for chamber music. I'd like to buy another Yamaha (I've played them along with Buffet and Selmer). Selmer, though a beautiful instrument, is astronomically out of my budget.
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Author: KenJarczyk
Date: 2016-10-05 17:21
Martin -
See the "For Sale" portion of the Bboard. Wide-Bore Leblancs were the best jazz horns.
Ken Jarczyk
Woodwinds Specialist
Eb, C, Bb, A & Bass Clarinets
Soprano, Alto, Tenor & Baritone Saxophones
Flute, Alto Flute, Piccolo
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2016-10-05 18:40
Older Selmers 9*, are great, Leblancs, even the old Nobets, pre R13's are still amazing, made by Lablanc. I just repaired/overhauled one and it PLAYS!
I can assure you that the CSG is not what you want.
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
Post Edited (2016-10-06 06:51)
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Author: Fuzzy
Date: 2016-10-06 05:58
I'm not sure that I'd box myself into a specific brand name. Many older instruments are great "for jazz". They made lots of great stuff from the 20's through 40's (oddly enough, when jazz was becoming acceptable  ). However, I think jazz is 99.9999% player/technique and .0001% specific make/model of instrument. (In my mind, other items - mouthpiece and reed for instance - make a much bigger difference.)
I know that Artie Shaw told the story slightly differently to different people, but the fact that he used a plastic reed (by some accounts, "just handed to him before he stepped up to the mic") to perform his famous recording of Stardust - tends to minimize even the impact of reeds in general?)
Just my two cents - but I hear things are depreciating! ;^)>>>
Best of luck in your search - wherever it leads you.
Fuzzy
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Author: ned
Date: 2016-10-06 07:08
''...Wide-Bore Leblancs were the best jazz horns...''
I'm not sure about this actually. In my view there is no such thing as a ''jazz'' horn. It ain't what you play, it's the way that you play it!
I have some colleagues who swear by their wide bore Selmer Albert Radio Improved horns, from about 1940.
I swear by my wide bore Buffet Albert from about 1920, and also my wide bore Hawkes & Son simple system which is even older.
Fuzzy's comment is appropriate: ''...Many older instruments are great "for jazz". They made lots of great stuff from the 20's through 40's (oddly enough, when jazz was becoming acceptable ). However, I think jazz is 99.9999% player/technique and .0001% specific make/model of instrument...''
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Author: Ursa
Date: 2016-10-06 08:49
In my opinion...the best clarinet for jazz is the one that doesn't get in the way of the music: it always--always--does what you want and expect it to do. Without that failsafe connection between musician and instrument, you ain't got nuthin'.
Seriously, why not use your YCL-20 for jazz? From my experience with the model, it's got the guts to keep up with an obnoxious trumpet section; can be played in tune with ensembles that drift way sharp during a session; plus the key work is ergonomic, can be adjusted to perfection by a good tech, and won't crap out on you during a gig. I challenge you to give it a whirl in a jazz setting!
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