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Re: The fast switch from B to A Clarinet

Author: MoonPatrol
Date: 2016-10-01 08:18

I have found the switch to the A clarinet that occurs well before the 2nd "fanfare of terror". It happens in the vicinity of 'Allegro assai". I was looking for the call-out in the wrong place. It appears, in my edition, above the staff, "Clarinetti in A". Here, there IS plenty of time to put down the Bb and switch over. At this point it rides on to the end of the piece on the A clarinet.

In my edition I also found a misprint in the key signature! It has one flat at the beginning of the Presto. The strings also have one flat there...hence a red flag. The A clarinet should be natural in the key signature. It picks up a flat at the next key change.

As for Beethoven, and his use of the C clarinet for the 2nd movement, I would not leave it up to chance that he wrote it for convenience. His use of instrumentation has always been designed with intention. The sounds from all the instruments he was exposed to were well retained before his world of not hearing began. The clarinet is close to the oboe and flute throughout the second movement, and doesn't stick out or solo. A "C" would make sense given it is a supportive element in this part.

My question was based on a desire to see what is required of the clarinets in this symphony from a "driver's seat view". A community orchestra is playing this piece in 2017 and I am on their backup list for clarinet. It is very, very unlikely that I would be contacted, but like winning the lottery, it is possible. I don't even have an A clarinet or C for that matter.

A lot of you pro players preach about the value of transposing, but if I was putting energy to getting the notes in place, I would not be able to put energy into actual music making. I don't think it was meant to be a trick or mathematical exercise when blowing the air. Y'all can probably do it almost seamlessly but I don't and can't. What about standing up for yourself and asking the librarian or band to get you a proper copy? We musicians get pushed around and abused without even knowing it! Not being paid to play gives you a bit of power to say no and after 20+ years of playing, I still don't see any way to make $$ with the clarinet. Thanks for all the thorough answers, Glenn

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