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 Bax Sonata question notation
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2016-09-24 18:19

In 2nd Mvt Bax Clarinet Sonata - 1 measure before 25 beat 2 it makes a lot more sense using a Bb instead of the B Natural. There are Bb's in beat 3 and 4


Anyone knowing the piece also see that?

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2016-09-25 01:59

We'll be listening out to hear if you get it right !!

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2016-09-25 17:37

Guess I'll have to check out a couple of recordings.

Somewhere deep in my library of tapes, I have Drucker performing it at the Toronto ClarFest in the 70's.

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2016-09-25 21:51

When I get home I'll check for you David

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2016-09-26 00:59

When I get home I'll check for you David

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: John Peacock 
Date:   2016-09-26 01:39

The 2nd and 3rd bars of Figure 25 are different: one has B naturals with written accidentals (but only in the clarinet part - not in the score), but the next has explicit flats, even though the first half of the bars are otherwise identical. So if you play what's written, then the bars either side of 25 have the same B natural becoming B flat pattern - don't you think having that alternation twice makes some sort of sense? Of the 3 recordings I have access to, Janet Hilton and Charles West play it as written, but John Bradbury changes the bar before 25 in the way you suggest. The harmonies are strange enough that neither alternative sounds more obviously right than the other. Since at least one bar seems to ask for B natural, it's not clear there's a strong case for change.

Great piece: good luck before 28!

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: donald 
Date:   2016-09-26 02:33





Post Edited (2016-09-26 02:35)

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2016-09-26 06:23

I'll listen to my Pay recording which is the best that I have heard.

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2016-09-26 14:16

Robert Plane's version ranks with Tony's in my opinion

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2016-09-26 15:29

>> Robert Plane's version ranks with Tony's in my opinion >>

Interesting that you should think that, because I don't have a version...

In the mid-70s I did once play it with Ian Brown for a BBC studio recording, and I suppose that David might somehow have that (I don't). Either that, or he's mistaken that the version he has is by me.

I remember the recording for an amusing (to me) reason: it happened to be rebroadcast as a repeat a few years later, and I came in on it without knowing who was playing. I remember thinking, that's not bad, I wonder who it is? So I looked it up in the Radio Times, and it was me!

The amusing bit is that when I knew that, I immediately began to notice what I DIDN'T like about it...

Tony



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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2016-09-26 18:51

Hmm - it was by a group that Tony has played with, so I assumed it was him. I'll look up the recording.

Tony - it's like that with pretty much everything we do. We are out own worst critic!

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2016-09-26 18:57

Tony - it was the Nash Ensemble


Wouldn't that be you??? (1996)


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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2016-09-26 18:58

Just researched it - was Michael Collins.

I like his playing a lot too.

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2016-09-26 23:37

Tony,

My apologies I also wrongly assumed it was you with the Nash. I've quite a few recordings of the work and it's easy to get confused especially when the CD is not to hand.

I would love to hear your broadcast, possibly available from the BBC archive?

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2016-09-26 23:38

For what it's worth David I've always played a Bb in that bar

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Bax Sonata question notation
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2016-09-26 23:47

Me also Peter - just making sure that my side of the water is not slanting it incorrectly :)

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