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 What to move on to?
Author: J-MB 
Date:   2016-07-01 05:07

So I'm about to be finishing up with the first movement of the Stamitz concerto no.3, and I'm not sure what to move on to, if you could give me any suggestions on solos, please give me some. I'm in search for something not too increased in difficulty, but still will provide me a good challenge. Thank you! Please look at Class A solos on the OMEA list. Asscesible on Jwpepper.com :)



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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: nellsonic 
Date:   2016-07-01 05:36

If you'd like recommendations from a particular list, please provide a direct link. There are many knowledgeable people here, but I'm betting more of us will be of more help if you do your part to make it easy.

When you say "finishing up with" what does that mean to you? Able to consistently perform it straight-through with technical accuracy and musical feeling at a representative tempo - or that you've made some progress struggling though it unevenly over time?

Sorry for the "third degree". I do want to see you get the help you are asking for. Please tell us more.

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: Roxann 
Date:   2016-07-01 06:32

Sonate, Op. 167
Saint-Saens
Event: Bb (A) Clarinet Solo
Class: A
Key:

Song Code: 1001221

I love this particular piece. I've probably played it 200 times and I never get tired of it. The first movement is lyrical with both slow and fast key work and low and high notes. It's also challenging...in a good way:)

Also, the Ohio Music Education Association website has the list folks will need in order to make their recommendations. There are a LOT of wonderful pieces on it and you'll get as many suggestions as you have people responding to your question. Good luck making your final selection. Youtube will help:) Give a listen to them and find which one moves you!

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: KenJarczyk 
Date:   2016-07-01 17:38

What's wrong with the rest of the Stamitz?

Ken Jarczyk
Woodwinds Specialist
Eb, C, Bb, A & Bass Clarinets
Soprano, Alto, Tenor & Baritone Saxophones
Flute, Alto Flute, Piccolo

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: J-MB 
Date:   2016-07-03 11:34

http://www.jwpepper.com/sheet-music/search.jsp?state=OH&sflist=OH2S2&stategroupname=Ohio%20Music%20Educators%20Association%20-%20OMEA%20-%20Solo%20and%20Instrumental&statelist=OH.S.BBCLARINET.SOLO.A&stategroup=OH.S. Here is a link. and ive never thought of the rest.

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: J-MB 
Date:   2016-07-03 11:43

As in finishing up, i mean in have it perfected and am waiting for auditions, so i have it down and i dont know what to do next, is what i mean, auditions are 2 months away. So i dont know if it would be wise to start a new one when im completely done or not. Thank you.

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2016-07-03 12:33

You must have a few concertos that you really like. Pick a favorite that's dear to your heart and go for it! Maybe pick one that can't ever be perfected or hasn't been perfected yet? The Copland hasn't yet been master, because I talked to Copland and he felt that people play it too fast and not with a jazz feel at all. They try to single or double tongue a pile of notes as fast as they can and this isn't the jazz feel he was looking for, such as in Rodeo, pieces like that. So step back and listen to his recordings. He wrote it for Benny Goodman, who we all know as a classical and jazz player, but it was taken too classical. I must say that Eddie Danials had a good time with the piece. Everyone should check it out. That's probably as close to what I think Aaron Copland had in mind. It's on youtube I think. Copland may not have totally approved of it, but it surely was what he had in mind. Eddie got the audience into it. It was surely fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW4n9UIbIKM


Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces


Yamaha Artist 2015




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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: J-MB 
Date:   2016-07-03 22:03

It's sadly not on the list, so I'm not sure if i could do it.

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2016-07-04 02:25

It's a fairly extensive list of clarinet repertoire but certainly not all-inclusive and the level of difficulty varies considerably among the listed pieces. I'm a little unsure what the audition is for and why you need to stick with repertoire in the OMEA list. Will a specific piece be asked for next year?

That having been asked, there's a lot of very challenging music in the list. If you want to cover the basic staples of the repertoire first, the Mozart Concerto would be an obvious choice if you haven't already learned it. Either of the Brahms Sonatas would also be in the "basic" set of solo choices. Stamitz and Wanhal are not as difficult technically, but they represent historically significant periods of the clarinet's development as a solo instrument and should be familiar.

What does your teacher suggest?

Karl

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2016-07-04 08:20

Sorry, I didn't notice the list...I clicked on it, do you have to log in and do all of that? Can you simply provide a list?

I surely agree that the Mozart and Brahms pieces are exciting to play. I'm not sure which ones to recommend, but all 3 are pretty much needed if you continue in the music field for a career. There are a lot of nice recordings of the Mozart Concerto. I think the Mozart is harder to master than the Brahms pieces. Then some weird ones which are still interesting to hear. I have a few favorites. Robert Marcellus is such a really nice recording with the Cleveland Orchestra. It's clean, straight forward, he has an amazing sound and the conductor Szell did a wonderful job with mastering the piece. I also heard David Shifrin play the piece with an extended A clarinet, designed for him by Lenny Gullotta to play the concerto the way Mozart wrote it. Lenny was a cool man that worked at Selmer for many years. David used a Selmer 10 series clarinet and Lenny built a new lower extended register with a few more keys! How cool is that! Since then a lot of great artists have recorded it this way. Just sharing a bit of history for you to perhaps get very intrigued in the piece. For me the second movement demands great control with smoothness, sound, and gracefulness. I think it's the hardest movement of the piece, based on these factors. Mozart loved to dance and chase women! So this movement I think is Mozart slow dancing with a beautiful lady, so if you get this image in the head of Mozart the piece fits like a glove! It's an emotional experience when performed correctly. These are not just notes anymore. Hope this helps find the right piece for you.


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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: J-MB 
Date:   2016-07-04 09:20

Im not sure if it has to be from the list.

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: clarinetguy 2017
Date:   2016-07-04 18:40

Others have posted nice recommendations, and perhaps this would be a good way to approach it.

If you want to stick with the old standards from the 18th and early 19th centuries, the Mozart concerto and the Weber concertos, concertino, and Grand Duo are great choices.

For mid to late 19th century music, the Brahms sonatas and Schumann Fantasy Pieces are wonderful. Also consider the Gade Fantasy Pieces, nice music that is sometimes overlooked. The Saint-Saens sonata mentioned above, composed in the early 20th century, is another good pick that fits into this group.

If you're thinking about music of the last 100 years, the list has many great options. My personal favorites are the Poulenc Sonata and the Martinu and Malcolm Arnold Sonatinas. If they'll allow you to select something not on the list, strongly consider the Copland Sonata (the composer's authorized transcription of the violin sonata).

Are you familiar with IMSLP/Pertucci Music Library? http://imslp.org/
Most (perhaps all) of the older selections can be found there.

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2016-07-04 22:25

clarinetguy wrote:

> If they'll
> allow you to select something not on the list, ...

I hate to be a nag, but I'm still not sure how the state ME list is involved here. Are you choosing a piece for the next audition? What is the audition for? A rating? Acceptance into an ensemble? When is the next audition (how long do you have to work on something before you have to start on the next audition piece)?

Sorry for my persistence. I really want to understand your question.

Karl

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: J-MB 
Date:   2016-07-04 22:33

Usually it is a guideline just for pieces, the audition is to get into 2 esnembles,. the audition is in 2 months but im bored with my solo, so i needed recommendations

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2016-07-05 04:22

So the next audition *after* the one coming up is in September 2017? Is a specific solo piece required for that one? (Was the Stamitz concerto specifically required for the one in two months?)

Any of the pieces that have been suggested will be worthwhile for you to work on while you wait for the next audition cycle to begin (not the one in two months). Obviously, don't let the Stamitz go, but you're right to want to spend time on something else. You might try listening on YouTube to the pieces that have been suggested and picking one you like by its sound.

YouTube can be an amazing resource for this kind of thing. Years ago the only way was for a student to go out and buy CDs or (even longer ago) LPs of pieces. Just don't fall into a trap of listening too closely to the performances, but instead listen to the pieces themselves.

Karl

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: J-MB 
Date:   2016-07-05 06:44

Thank you so much Karl!!! I will try one.

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: James Langdell 
Date:   2016-07-06 20:02

Duo for clarinet and piano by Norbert Burgmuller would be at a similar level of difficulty, and in a more romantic-era style.

--James Langdell

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 Re: What to move on to?
Author: J-MB 
Date:   2016-07-08 03:28

Thank you James

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