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 The evidence for Mühlfeld's vibrato
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2016-06-22 18:48

I want to be clear – and it's why I've put it in a new thread – that this is not any part of a discussion about whether you should or should not use vibrato. Please don't make it that; it would just be to play into what my friend Michael McIntyre calls 'the dichotomization instinct' which is unfortunately just as prevalent here as it is in the rest of the world; see parts of:

http://www.atm.damtp.cam.ac.uk/people/mem/papers/LHCE/mcintyre-e-book-draft.html

(I suspect that Dan Oberlin in particular might find this growing e-book by a fellow mathematician/musician interesting, though it's an important read for anyone.)

All I want to do is to track down what is the evidence for the assertion that Mühlfeld had 'a big vibrato'. There is no mention of it, for example, anywhere in the entirety of the biography "Richard Mühlfeld, der Brahms-Klarinettist" Artivo 2007 pp395, though there is much citing of contemporary praise of his tone and phrasing.

Perhaps I should try getting in touch with Bruce Adolphe about the details of the part of his talk that deals with the matter. He mentions 'letters' and 'interviews notated down', for example. Here's the relevant part:
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There had been some interviews with Mühlfeld, with members of the orchestra, and they're notated down and there's a description of Mühlfeld's playing, and one of the most famous descriptions says that he played with a BIG vibrato...we know from descriptions that Joachim hardly used vibrato except in expressive moments, much less than people do today; but according to the letters, Mühlfeld used as much vibrato as any string player of that time.
The passage in Brymer's book that I mentioned in the other thread goes:
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Just before World War II a question was put to a very old viola-player, sometime conductor of the Duke of Devonshire's Orchestra, about the playing of Mühlfeld. The old man had occasionally been called in by Joachim to play in his quartet, and on several occasions had played the Brahms Quintet with the great Mühlfeld. Of the clarinettist's playing he was most enthusiastic, saying that three things mainly stuck in his memory. "He used two clarinets, A and Bb for the slow movement, to simplify the gypsy section; he had a fiery technique with a warm tone – and a big vibrato." Asked again by a startled questioner if he didn't mean to say 'rubato' the old man looked puzzled. "No," he said, "vibrato – much more than Joachim and as much as the 'cellist." (It will be recalled that Joachim was reputed to play with little or no vibrato.) This account, while of no authority, does at least give one food for thought; it could be that the achievements of exceptional players (and Mühlfeld was certainly that) do not always take root in the years that follow their finest period.
Has anyone got any ideas, or leads?

I should say again that this doesn't lead anywhere for me in terms of how I play myself. The interest is merely academic.

Tony



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