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 "SOUTH TEXAN" ITALY clarinet find
Author: BrunoStoner 
Date:   2016-06-14 03:59

Hi,
i just bought a nice wooden clarinet marked "South Texan" Italy s/n 1061, complete with case, at a flee market. I haven't been able to find out anything about the model or`maker or its value except that there is a South Texas clarinet festival.

Could anybody tell me anything about it quality, collectability and value wise ?

Thanks,
bs



Post Edited (2016-06-23 17:59)

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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: BrunoStoner 
Date:   2016-06-14 04:28

p.s. I think the South Texas clarinet festival is just a coincidence and not related to the South Texas clarinet manufacturer in Italy.

bs

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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2016-06-14 04:34

We might be able to identify the maker from photos of the keys. For example, is the strut connecting the pad to the right-hand ring keys straight or bent to the left?

Send photos of the complete clarinet and also the front, both sides and back.

I doubt that it's worth much.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: BrunoStoner 
Date:   2016-06-14 04:56

CORRECTION:

With the use of a magnifying glass I can see now for the maker it has SOUTH TEXAN, Italy .. NOT Texas.

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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: ned 
Date:   2016-06-14 08:23

A further correction:

''...at a flee market...'', should read ''flea''.

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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: dubrosa22 
Date:   2016-06-14 11:01

Perhaps one should 'flee' from said market?



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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2016-06-14 12:12

My first clarinet was a flea market find (a B&H 2-20 for $7.75), only that was in northeast Texas.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: BrunoStoner 
Date:   2016-06-14 20:54

I new that.

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 "South Texan" clarinet find.
Author: BrunoStoner 
Date:   2016-06-14 21:07
Attachment:  southtexan-clarinet-2.jpg (660k)
Attachment:  southtexan-clarinet-sn-2.JPG (543k)
Attachment:  southtexan-clarinet-18.jpg (252k)
Attachment:  southtexan-clarinet-7.jpg (467k)
Attachment:  southtexan-clarinet-36.jpg (520k)



The clarinet is a SOUTH TEXAN (not TEXAS) and stamped ITALY under the serial number 1061.

Here's a bunch of pictures ...
http://www.brunostonerguitars.com/clarinet/index.htm

I see vintage European clarinets are $100 - $200. Is there anything special about this clarinet? It's in very good shape and appears of high quality.

And I'm curious now to know why there is absolutely no information on this maker on the www that I wind up on a clarinet bb ?


Thanks.
bs

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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: ned 
Date:   2016-06-15 04:56

''I new that.''

!! What exactly?

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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2016-06-15 05:11

It's a beginner's instrument, showing sings of wear. I doubt that it will bring more than $35 or at most $50.

Ken Shaw

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 Re:
Author: BrunoStoner 
Date:   2016-06-15 06:56

Thanks everybody for your responses.

Is this an A or Bb clarinet?

bs



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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: Bill 
Date:   2016-06-16 21:24

And I thought I had seen every brand of mid-century clarinet! "South Texan." Oh my God!

I would never have played clarinet if it were not for a "flee" market. Mine was an "Emil Jardin." Unplayable. Unrestorable. So I bought a Leon Trotte from a genuine music store. And thus, in my mid-thirties, I discovered one of the main interests of my life.

Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)


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Author: BrunoStoner 
Date:   2016-06-18 01:57





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 Re: "South Texas" clarinet find.
Author: BrunoStoner 
Date:   2016-06-18 01:59
Attachment:  clarinet-france.jpg (271k)


Here's a nearly identical clarinet from France that was just sold on eBay.

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Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2016-06-18 19:25

In general, if you see an instrument for sale with no brand name at all or with an unknown brand name, it's probably a store brand. Over the decades, most of the larger companies selling student-quality instruments have made them available wholesale without company logos. The manufacturer will either supply the instruments blank or make deals with retailers for the factory to put the store brands on. Some stores use a decal or even a stick-on patch for the purpose. Secondary sellers such as pawn shops and flea markets dealers often peel away any easily-removable off-brand name in order to make customers hope the instrument is something fabulous.

[I came back to add that there are a few exceptions to the general rule that these instruments are student-quality. For instance, in the early 20th century, an important New York music store, Fischer, was buying clarinets from Buffet. With the store brand, they're not worth a lot, but that can be a good thing for a buyer, if you're interested in trying out an antique Buffet for a bargain price.]

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.

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Author: BrunoStoner 
Date:   2016-06-18 19:36

Reminds me of acoustic guitars. Harmony made early Fenders and Silvertones among others.

My clarinet and the one on eBay from France are nearly identical down to the case stripes and interior compartments.

Who could be the mfg. ?



Post Edited (2016-06-21 06:10)

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