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Author: Zain
Date: 2016-05-27 05:56
I am in the market for the kooiman etude thumb rest, but I am worried about it affecting my horn itself in a negative way from a technical standpoint. My thinking is that when extra holes are put into a horn that is already well function, the resonant quality of the lower joint is changed and the whole dynamic of the horn is altered. Would I be wrong in thinking this? Also does the etude required the installation of extra screws for the mount? Thank you!
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Author: Bennett ★2017
Date: 2016-05-27 07:11
I used it for a bit and was able to use the existing screw holes. I can't imagine that adding two tiny screws, if you must, would in any way change the sound.
While I found it very helpful in relieving thumb pressure, it ultimately didn't work for me because I couldn't adequately control rotation around the clarinet's long axis. Really bad, for me, when trilling with my pinkies.
The regular thumb rest gives me more control. I use a neck strap now; while actually playing my thumb carries the weight but during all those moments when I'm not playing the neck strap has the burden.. Your mileage may vary.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2016-05-27 07:40
No.
Clarinet tone is produced by vibration of the air inside the bore. It has nothing to do with the "resonant quality" of the wood, and, at any rate, application of a different thumb rest will make no difference in the overall resonance of the lower joint.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2016-05-27 08:11
I've used the Kooimann rest for several years on several instruments, and I can say that it has no effect whatsoever on tone. Ken Shaw (above) has got it spot on. Replacement or relocation of thumb rests is done quite frequently.
Tony F.
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2016-05-27 11:11
You will surely be fine. Have a good repair shop drill the holes if needed.and fill the old holes. If this is done right you won'r even see the old holes. If you drill the holes yourself be really careful. If you drill too deep you will go right through the bore or with the wrong drill bit you can strip the screws. Then a 5 minute job turns into a few hours of frustrations.
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2016-05-27 15:11
As said, the tiny holes to secure the thumb rest have no effect on the sound at all.
However.......
There is an interesting claim by Gerold Angerer of Gerold Klarinetten. He has an available option to place a large ovate wooden plate over this area of the bottom joint and then place the thumb rest upon that. He claims that where we put our thumb is a natural resonant point (where the wave form folds over itself). The "plate" he can add, diffuses the "damping affect" of the thumb........ so he says.
I have played with this notion with the rubber thumb rest of Tom Ridenour with some noticeable results of MORE resonance (though it doesn't spread out the thumb surface area "damping" as much as the "plate."
I would assume that if there is anything to the Gerold claim of greater resonance by avoiding the damping of the thumb pressed on this point, the Kooiman would fill the bill.
Let us know !!!!
..................Paul Aviles
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Author: Zain
Date: 2016-05-27 17:00
Thank you all for the replies! I can understand the tone exits in the air through the bore, really it's just hesitation over having a shop drill into my R13. I think I will try it, though I am worried about my "trillability" of the lower four keys now. Does Ridenour's thumb rest affect this in anyway?
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2016-05-27 17:03
"Does Ridenour's thumb rest affect this in anyway?"
Not in the slightest.
Tony F.
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Author: Roxann
Date: 2016-05-27 18:20
Zain, I play an R13 and did not have to have extra holes drilled in it to mount the plate. HOWEVER, I did have to apply a tiny, tiny drop of wood glue as the screws kept loosening. I figured, better the wood glue then more holes. I love my Kooiman thumb rest. It's been a great relief to my old, arthritic thumbs. I also use the Ridenour thumb rest, but find I have a hard time keeping it on my clarinet and it only, somewhat, relieves the pain in my thumb from the weight.
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Author: Jbosacki
Date: 2016-05-28 09:22
I've been using one since I was a teenager. Just a note I'd highly recommend it.
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Author: SonicManEXE
Date: 2016-05-30 04:39
I've heard about this thumb rest before and have tried to look up information about it, but not much really came up. From what I have heard, I've only heard good things (this thread only proves that). The only problem I could think of is if you let it mess with the angle at which you play. In that case, it could affect your tone, but it does not inherently affect tone.
Jared
Ft. Lauderdale & Tampa, FL
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Author: jthole
Date: 2016-06-11 02:20
I had the thumb rest installed on both my clarinets by Ton Kooiman himself. I've never noticed a before / after difference in tone. Mr. Kooiman also never has mentioned anything about that possibility.
I wouldn't want to play for longer stretches without the Etude thumb rest. I just came home from a rehearsal tonight, and I cannot imagine playing a while evening with the standard thumb rest any more!
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