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 Re: Question - Beethoven Quintet for Piano and Winds
Author: brycon 
Date:   2016-04-18 23:10

Liquorice's suggestion of playing the two phrases differently is a good one. And the texture supports his interpretation: the piano's sixteenth notes in the wind's phrase seems to call for a little more gusto. Maybe some of the charm of the opening is having the winds enter with a little more ruckus after 8 bars of the cantabile piano.

Ken, the phrase structure you're talking about is called a "sentence." The term comes from Schoenberg and is now commonly used in discussions of classical era music. This Beethoven phrase, however, as well as the opening of the Mozart Concerto, are both periods (the other main type of phrase structure). Proptionally, sentences are 2+2+4 with some sort of cadence at the end, and periods are 4+4 with some sort of cadence in the middle and at the end (both the Beethoven and Mozart have a half cadence in bar 4).

Not really a big deal to mix up sentences and periods. But one thing that is important to note (and it may affect the way you play these phrases) is that because periods have a cadence at the midpoint, they feel more balanced. And because sentences only have a cadence at the end, they feel as though they have more drive toward the end of the 8 measures.



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