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Author: Jun
Date: 2001-05-16 15:25
When i play on my clarinet, i hear the sound in my head..issit the same sound that my teacher is hearing?
I tried asking him to comment on my tone, but he always said quite good to me. but i feel rather unhappy with my tone...although it is getting more and more focused....i just feel very strange...
jus a stupid thinking in my mind,....
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2001-05-16 15:30
We sound a bit different to others because the bell of the instrument is aimed slightly away from us. We hear pretty close to what they hear, but not exactly. Sometimes I record my practice (with a good recording set up) and listen and try to hear my mistakes and flaws. But, if your instructor is happy with your tone and you are not--try to discuss with him/her your problem. Perhaps you have a particular clarinetist in mind and you could relay that information to your teacher.
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Author: Mario
Date: 2001-05-16 15:46
When we speak, we do not hear ourselves the way others do. It is because we hear much from our own skull which vibrates and transfer ssound waves directly to the earing apparatus in our head. Record yourself and see.
When we play, it is the same.
- We hear un-integrated sound because we are very close
- We hear noices (key work, hisses, grunts, dreaded undertones sometimes...)
- We hear high frequency waves from our skull.
Briefly, what we hear is not as good as what others do. Fortunately...
Make the following experiment: Clog your ears (a nice Winter cold will do fine) and play. since you no longer hear from the ears, what you hear is from the skull. Pretty bad wouldn't you say...
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Author: graham
Date: 2001-05-16 16:00
Your comment that it just sounds very strange puts me in mind of the effect when you endlessly repeat a single word to yourself. It begins to sound silly. If you are focusing your thoughts on the sound you are making the same thing may happen, and it will all begin to sound "strange". Try thinking also of the feeling of your playing; whether it seems fluid or stiff, and whether it communicates the music or seems inert. This may help you get the tone aspect into perspective.
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Author: bob gardner
Date: 2001-05-16 16:46
Listen to you telephone answering machine and see if you know who made the recorded message.
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Author: jerry
Date: 2001-05-16 17:13
Stand in a corner (while facing it) and play. See if you sound differently.
~ jerry
Still in Clarinet Boot camp
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-05-16 18:25
Bone conduction accounts for a larger percentage of the sound you "hear" than you'd imagine. Mouthpiece pads help reduce the eefect.
A good recording of yourself is the only "real" way to figure out what you sound like, and a lot of that will still depend on the mike, recorder, room acoustics, etc.
A good (but blunt) friend or teacher can help the most! Sometimes you have to adjust what you <i>think</i> people hear to the <i>reality</i> of what they hear.
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Author: Rene
Date: 2001-05-16 19:19
I too found a lot of differences. What I think is OK (articulation, flow of melody) is garbage, and what I think is bad (long B and C and tone color) is very nice. Well, a good teacher might help. Recording is second best.
Rene
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Author: Jim
Date: 2001-05-17 04:04
Mario,
I'll disagree, I prefer the way I think I sound to any recording - true for speaking, singing and playing. But... I suspect that it is just familiarity that colors my preference. I never know who the strange person on the tape is! Funny thing, now that my 17 year old son's voice has stabilized, he sounds like I do on tape, and I am always a bit taken aback. My wife of course has no problem with it as it is the same voice she's heard for 28 years. (We also look very much alike, that is he looks like I did at 17.)
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-05-17 13:50
Jim -
The real question is, when you go into the bathroom to shave and look in the mirror, do you see your father looking back at you?
Ken Shaw
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Author: Christoffer
Date: 2001-05-17 21:39
Double lip embouchure vs. single lip makes a huge difference in the way you sound to yourself. I guess that double lip (which I use predominantly) is closer to what others hear than single lip, because of less resonance from teeth/skull. I am pretty satisfied with what I hear, when I use double lip, and so is my teacher. I really don't know if we hear the same, but as long as we're both satisfied, I think it's all right.
Still, I am not absolutely and completely happy with my tone, but that is in my opinion a positive thing - there should always be room for improvement, actually, that's what's so challenging and rewarding about music. Every time I pick up my horn I can't help wondering about the progress I've made since my first squeaks only about 6 months ago.
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