Woodwind.OrgThe Clarinet BBoardThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard Equipment Study Resources Music General    
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 
 quick help on a musical notation
Author: Musikat 
Date:   2016-03-04 18:49

I have an audition piece that I have to turn in this weekend and I am not sure about one of the notations. The piece is adagio and mostly played piano. But at one point it says "poco sf" and twice after that "psf."

What is that? It seems like it would be "a little subito forte" but does that mean not too loud or not too sudden? Or is it something else entirely like sf for sfz? I can't seem to find that notation even when I google it.

Does anyone know?

Reply To Message
 
 Re: quick help on a musical notation
Author: kdk 
Date:   2016-03-04 19:50

Who is the composer? What period is the music from?

Most of the time when I've seen it, sf means to accent within the overall dynamic. poco would modify the amount of accent - a little less emphatic than sf. But, truthfully, I suspect that sf, fz and sfz are used sloppily enough by composers and arrangers that you have to look less at the context to get any meaning at all from them. Does a little heart grab or a major arm thrust seem appropriate at the spots in question? The answer to "What is that?" is that it doesn't have a set, objective definition, so it's up to you as the player to decide what it's meant to convey.

psf is even more meaningless - you can take it as an acronym for poco sf, or take the p to somehow connect to piano, which would be even more obscure. I think the overall effect is to suggest something subtle, not over the top, and that anything you do as a performer to recognize both the notation and its implied limit would be hard for a judge to argue with.

Karl

Reply To Message
 
 Re: quick help on a musical notation
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2016-03-04 20:08

We spoke about the "poco forte" at the beginning of the Brahms Sonata in F recently. That notation is meant to be taken within a context, however there is no context at the beginning of a piece. Karl Leister and others have said that Brahms wrote about a sound that is stylistically "more intense" but not really "loud" per se.

I don't know if that's your composer's intent, but it's a start.



Bottom line, you must DO something different where there is a marking of some sort. Given the musical context (taking the accompaniment into account if you have it) YOU must decide WHAT the difference will be. Musical interpretation is usually a "best guess" based on experience.




...............Paul Aviles



Reply To Message
 
 Re: quick help on a musical notation
Author: Musikat 
Date:   2016-03-04 21:00

Thanks for the input. The piece is an excerpt and we were not given any reference to what it is from or the composer. The style suggests it is a little more modern, and I have never heard it before.

It sounds like as long as I do something that approximates what I think it means I will be okay. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misinterpreting it badly. My natural inclination is to play it with a little more emphasis.

Reply To Message
 
 Re: quick help on a musical notation
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2016-03-05 06:21

Anyone have that really thick music dictionary? I lost mine. Maybe there is something in there?


Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces


Yamaha Artist 2015




Reply To Message
 Avail. Forums  |  Threaded View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org