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 Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: JonTheReeds 
Date:   2016-02-17 13:34

I've been trying to find a copy of Hand in Hand by Hanon for the clarinet (the Buddy DeFranco version) and have had no luck. Everywhere is out of stock

Does anyone know where I can get a copy (without paying extortionate prices)?

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2016-02-17 17:37

In the US, local city libraries have an interloan system that allows them to borrow almost any book from another library that is listed in such indexes as <http://www. worldcat.org>. A patron of the library can then keep the book for a brief time and photocopy it, if they wish--subject to legal restrictions, of course. For example, the Tulane University Library (Howard Tilton) in New Orleans, LA has a copy of Buddy Defranco's Hanon book and could send it out to--say--Butte, Montana, by library loan to a public library that requested it. Usually there is no charge for this service/

Do local libraries in the U.K. offer anything of this kind?

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2016-02-17 18:05

Seabreeze,

I'm not certain that public libraries, except in certain state networks, do interlibary loans with universities. However, university libraries do it all the time with each other except one must have a library card for the originating library.

I seriously doubt that Tulane University would send the book in question to the public library in Butte, MT. However, if someone at Montana State University requested the copy of the DeFranco book from Tulane that would be a different story.

But here in Ohio, we have a wonderful setup that dates back to the 1960s of all libraries sharing books. It is called OhioLink. One caution though is that certain holdings do not circulate such as reference materials and very rare books.

HRL



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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2016-02-17 19:53

UK libraries certainly used to offer this service. Back in the 60's I was doing aeronautical research at Ealing, West London. I used to use the local library to get technical material from all over the country and even from the US library of Congress.

Tony F.

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2016-02-17 20:13

I hold in my hand now a copy of the 2 vol. Eugene Gay Clarinet Method and a copy of the second volume of Henri Sarlit's 25 Etudes De Virtuosite (Leduc) that I obtained though interlibrary loan from the Robert Smith Public Library on Harrison Ave and Canal Blvd, here in New Orleans. The library obtained both copies fron academic college libraries.

To further confirm that inter-library loans between academic libraries and public libraries are routine and commonplace, I called the Interlibrary Loan services office at both Tulane University Library in New Orleans and LSU Library in Baton Rouge, La. The librarians there both said that not only do they frequenty send books from their collections to public libraries; the public libraries reciprocate and gladly lend their books to the academic college libraries. Such reciprocal loans are lawful, regular, and normal library practice.

To fact check this, call the LSU Interlibrary Loan Office at 225-578-2138.

Finally, I called a music librarian I know well and with whom I once worked. She wishes to remain anonymous, but when I asked her to name some places where her academic library could send books she burst into laughter and began to sing the lyrics to "Route 66," ticking off the names Chicago, Springfield, St. Louis, Oklahoma City, Amarillo, Flagstaff, etc. Then I asked, what about Butte, Montana. She said that wasn't on the route, but she could send books there too.

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2016-02-17 20:55

Seabreeze,

Thanks for the info.

HRL



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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2016-02-18 00:08

You're welcome.

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: Nessie1 
Date:   2016-02-18 13:15

Amarillo? ls this the way to Hanon-trillo?

Vanessa.

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2016-02-19 02:45

Seabreeze,

Here is an additional installment of the inter-library loan issue.

I stopped at my very good public library today and asked "there is book I'd like to get from the Northwestern University library; can you get it for me..." I picked that school since it is out-of-state and obviously not part of OhioLink.

The person at the desk said "we can not actually request a specific book from Northwestern but we can make the request to the consortium we belong to; they will get it for us from a closer library if it is available..."

So, the loaning seems to be a little bit more complicated here in Ohio.

HRL



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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: JonTheReeds 
Date:   2016-02-20 17:44

I've searched local libraries in the UK, looked on worldcat.org, and still can't find it

I'm starting to think that this book isn't real, that all that exist are dead-end links on the internet!

Does anyone on the forums have a real copy?

:o)

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2016-02-20 18:32

I have a copy of the first part of the second edition--the real scale and finger exercises. I didn't copy the second part on jazz improvisation.

The scale and finger exercises make a nice complement to such standard works as the Baerman Method, vol 3, and the Jettel Method vol. 2. There is a copy of the original in the Howard Tilton Memorial Library in New Orleans not far from where I live that is currently checked out. For some other American libraries that have it see http://www.worldcat.org/title/hand-in-hand/oclc/53025744.

I don't know why the regular search method for books no longer brings up DeFranco-Hanon, but as you can see from the link above, if you you happen to know the oclc/number and take a different route into the search engine (which I discovered serendipitously), the book still comes up.



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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: martclarinet 
Date:   2020-02-18 14:38

did you get hand on the hand in hand with hanon of buddy? buddy?
i'de be interested in a pdf version of it...

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2020-02-18 19:45

What did DeFranco do to make Hanon exercises into clarinet exercises? As I remember, apart from being written for two hands in octaves, there's nothing especially pianistic involved (like double and triple stops in Bach string music). They're finger exercises playable on probably any instrument as Hanon wrote them. Am I remembering them wrong?

Karl

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: Dibbs 
Date:   2020-02-18 21:15

That's how I remember them. That and my hurting hands. My piano teacher used to make me play them, lifting each finger as high as possible, until my hands seized up. I do hope that doesn't happen any more.

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 Re: Can't get a hand on Hanon
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2020-02-18 21:58

Hand in Hand with Hanon is very much DeFranco's work rather than a note for note transcription or close adaptation of the Hanon exercises. DeFranco riffs on Hanan the same as he would on a jazz standard. The book would perhaps best be titled "Finger Exercises in the style of Hanon" or "Exercises After Hanon." The altissimo passages are especially challenging (they are a great excuse to revisit the Ridenour, Hadcock, and all the fingering charts--including the new one by P. Cuper) and DeFranco has also suggested playing entire sections in one breath to develop greater control. Everything is from the viewpoint of the clarinet fingerings and breath control. The piano keyboard has been left far behind. One might say the same for the recent edition by Philippe Cuper of "38 Agility Studies by C. Czerny transcribed by Benedetto Carulli." Carulli and Cuper have thoroughly "clarinetized" them. Both the DeFranco and Carulli/Cuper works are worth practicing to strengthen and extend clarinet technique. But if you're looking for Hanon and Czerny, go back to the original piano versions. .



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