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Author: Sheldon1
Date: 2016-01-10 19:42
Hi , can any help me id this vintage Leblanc Clarinet .
I know it is a Double LL model ( early 60s? ) but not too sure which version it is , I was told that it had a special fingering with an " extra Key "but not too sure what that means .
The pads and corks look to be in excellent condition as is the rest of the instrument with no cracks or damage.
I deal in string instruments so Clarinets are outside of my field of knowledge so any help would be much appreciated .
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Thanks in advance
sheldon
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2016-01-10 19:51
It's their model 1176, produced from 1976 onwards. My Leblanc catalog describes it like this:
1176S, 1176 AS
Model 1176S “LL” was designed by master clarinet builder
Léon Leblanc for the professional player. It has a rich, full-
bodied tone quality, is extremely expressive and responsive
thoughout the registers and provides players with the
flexibility needed to perform in various musical styles and
dynamic levels.
Specifications
Key: Bb
Bore: 14.80 mm (.582")
Key mechanism: 17 key, 6 ring
Key style: In-line “Jump” trill keys, separate post mountings for the trill keys,
C#-G# key and Ab-Eb key
Body material: Aged grenadilla wood
Pad cup style: Conical
Key finish: Silver-plated
Mouthpiece: 2500-2L
Case: Deluxe wood shell
Options: Model 1176S available in the key of A on a special-order basis
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Ben
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Author: Sheldon1
Date: 2016-01-10 20:55
Thanks for the quick response , the serial number is 18154 which i though dated it to the 60s? Is this incorrect .
thanks again
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2016-01-10 22:23
hmm, maybe my "1976" year is wrong. AFAIK Leblanc numbered consecutively across their whole "Leblanc France" range (i.e. w/o Noblets, Vitoes, Normandies etc). ???
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Ben
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Author: Sheldon1
Date: 2016-01-10 22:40
I was told that it was a 1964 which is got me confused , also any ideas of the fingering holes as i was told it had an extra " key " ( accented ? ) . thanks
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Author: dubrosa22
Date: 2016-01-10 22:42
Hmm, Sheldon1 your other identical thread includes an attachment photo showing a 17 key, 7 ring model - is THIS the same instrument as THIS thread???
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2016-01-10 23:54
The LL model was certainly available in the early 1960s. My pair have ser nos 14xxx and were made in late 1960 so 18154 would date from approx 1963/64.
The LL was offered with just about every permutation of extras keys possible. Mine has the forked Eb (a ring for the LH 3rd finger) and articulated C#/G# (which also provides an extra sliver key between RH rings 1 and 2).
The other options were the LH Ab/Eb key for LH pinky and the low Eb with extra RH pinky key.
I have personally seen every combination of keywork except for lowEb alone, this probably always being offered only as a full Boehm option.
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Author: Sheldon1
Date: 2016-01-11 23:20
Attachment: leblanc1.jpg (312k)
Thanks for the response and information . Yes it is the same instrument as in the other thread ( Clicked submit twice by mistake ) - 17 key, 7 ring.
Would the " split key " put people off ir make it more desirable ?
I have asked to sell the instrument but not too sure of the current value .
thanks again
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2016-01-12 00:00
From my viewpoint the extra forked Eb/Bb mechanism is the single most useful extra on a clarinet. It does not detract from any other fingering (a player can just ignore it if they wish) but to me offers in particular a lovely in-tune Eb option.
As to value, sadly Leblanc clarinets have never been "fashionable" in the UK and since the demise of the French company values have slipped further.
Condition means a lot but assuming it is sound and doesn't need much work then the (very broad) range of £400 - £700 ought to cover it.
It will be more valuable to an enthusiast who appreciates the build quality of these older Leblanc instruments than to general Joe Public.
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Author: Sheldon1
Date: 2016-01-12 02:50
thanks again for taking the time out to answer my questions . I need to see back around the top end of your estimate so hopefully there will be some people out there than will appreciate the instrument .
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