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Author: Corey
Date: 2001-05-08 23:53
I am interested in the Peter Eaton clarinets and i know there preety exspensive and i did a search on them and found practically nothing worth reading so i am wondering are they good proffesional clarinets? they seem like good ones with a nice rich tone are they in A442( european tuning ) or A440?. I am also considering getting a Leblanc or selmer or etc.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-05-09 00:17
Why not contact Peter or visit his website? Check the Sponsors' page - Peter is a sponsor. But ...
If you can't try them out for yourself and get approval of your teacher then I wouldn't recommend them to you. They do have special characteristics all their own.
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2001-05-09 14:57
Brenda,
Please elaborate on your "stick to Leblanc" statement. Peter Eaton clarinets (as far as I know) have an excellent reputation --- are you against them simply because they're not in the United States mainstream?
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Author: Robert Small
Date: 2001-05-09 17:47
I believe I saw somewhere that Peter Eaton makes a model based on the old Boosey&Hawkes 1010 model which was a large bore horn (15.20 mm I believe), larger even than the Leblanc Pete Fountain model (15.00 mm). Anyone looking to get a large bore clarinet might want to check out the Peter Eatons. I have heard that the 1010s had intonation problems due to the large bore but that the Eaton models have solved them.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-05-09 18:58
Corey -
Peter Eaton makes excellent instruments, in both English (large) bore and French (small) bore styles. These are described on his web site at http://www.eatonclarinets.freeserve.co.uk/clarinets.html . His English bore instruments have a very good reputation, and these, or a Rossi English bore, are what to get if you want to play in that style, which is not popular in the U.S. I know less about his French bore instruments, but he's a fine player and an excellent and careful maker, so they would certainly be worth trying. The large U.S. mail order suppliers stock them, and they are on display and available for trial at the various festivals and workshops.
An English bore instrument must be played with an English style mouthpiece. Eaton makes good ones, as do several other English makers. A French style mouthpiece doesn't work at all.
I have an Eaton French style mouthpiece that makes a very good "clarinetty" sound on my Buffets and plays very well in tune. I stopped using it because I found it difficult to make different tone colors and because I found something I like better. My wife, who has a golden ear, keeps asking me to go back to it, because she loves the sound.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: eilidh
Date: 2001-05-09 19:43
my friend has a pair of Peter Eaton clarinets - i believe there is a bit of a waiting list for them at times
my friend likes his very much - they are french bore - and i believe they cost around £4200 for the pair
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Author: Bill Fogle
Date: 2001-05-09 21:05
Jack Brymer played one for a time, and Emma __________, the British player and source of so many cds. They're sort of like where B&H 1010 players went after the fall. I recall reading a number of years ago that one person was disappointed in his P.E. My guess is that they're probably fabulous, at the least.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2001-05-09 21:17
David,
I have absolutely nothing against Peter Eaton clarinets, I've never played one and I'm certain they are marvelous instruments for those who have chosen them. I only advise about the Leblancs because if he should decide he doesn't like it after purchasing it, he'll probably have a better time selling it. It has nothing to do with American anything and it was certainly not intended as an unkind remark against Eaton clarinets. Lighten up.
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2001-05-09 21:53
I, like Dave, did not understand your reply and I am glad you clarified it. I don't think the "lighten up" improved on anything.
Bob A
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Author: Daniel Bouwmeester
Date: 2001-05-09 22:26
I believe one should buy an instrument with which one is the most comfortable with. That means, if you've studied on french clarinets, you should stay on french clarinets.. If you've studied on English clarinets, you should stay on english clarinets...etc
The great thing Peter Eaton did was to build this large bore english clarinet, which was so regreted by Ex- 1010'ers. The british school is a very respected school by me, and need to be continued in the same tradition. The sound Jack Brymer, Anthony pay and others have is very special indeed, and cannot be found elsewhere with other equipment and players.
I find it quite difficult to believe someone educated in the american school could play these instruments as they should be played. Like for example the fact that british players use very soft reeds (1.5 vandoren's).
I respect a lot the american school, and respect their players (who cannot fall in love with the beautifull tone of Mitchell Lurie or Marcellus ?)... But I think you guyz should stick with R13's and hard reeds.
Myself am a mixture of different schools (French - German - British - american) (which sort of equals o the italian school)..(because of my different teachers, and because I'm located in the centre of Europe) and I'm sticking with my very well selected Rc's and my mid soft reeds (2.5 - 3 )and B45lyre mp.
I'd like to have the sound of Brymer (since my mum was playing with that sound when I was still in her stomach).... but I know this is not possible.... But anyway... I am happy to be able to take a bit of every school... Some people like it, some don't because they are still "one school" minded. (like Mr Fabio diCasola which was the judge at the national music competition).
Anyway... Corey, I would greatly encourage you to try Peter Eaton clarinets for your general clarinet culture, but I would not recommend you to buy the large bore one.... you betta go for the french bore clarinet. (and please don't order anything before trying.. It takes months to find a good clarinet).
But really I would see you more going for a very very well selected R13. (which you could eventually get modified... ex. add, resonance holes, but extra keys, double hole octave key...etc).
Good luck
Regards
DAn (Geneva, Switzerland)
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2001-05-10 02:55
I have several very discerning customers who play them and recommend them.
Manufacturing standard is high, and Peter stands by his product.
A regulating screw(s?) as been incorporated in the low key linkage instead of (part of?) the crows foot. In doing this the design has incorporated a linkage (I've forgotten the details) which has a great deal of rubbing involved. Hence it is bad design, because rubbbing introduces friction which means the fingers have to work harder to overcome it. This modification, for me, makes one adjustment easier but several other adjustments in that area considerably more difficult. It is very rare for a tweak of this single adjustment to correct low key maladjustment, so all things considered, I see no point in this deviation from standard design.
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Author: mw
Date: 2001-05-10 20:58
I have heard that the Eaton International was (slightly) heavier on weight. This caused a well-known player to switch. I understand that this player truly loved his recorded sound, but couldn't get over the weight issue. I was informed that this player went to Rossi.
FWIW, I think that many of us have a tendency to jump the gun; "tone" fails us or it's our "ears" that do (e.g. we don't know how to "take" a comment) ....
.... no doubt, we could all use some lightening up!
Best to all,
mw
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