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Author: ClarinetUSA
Date: 2015-12-14 21:32
Who are the top 5 US clarinet professors for a student entering college now that is interested in a career as a professional musician / professor?
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2015-12-14 23:02
Mr Blumberg:
Did your list have order to it such that, in your opinion, for example, Gilad is better than Gilbert?
I'm not challenging your opinion, just seeking to understand it.
Thanks.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-12-15 00:19
hmmmmm..........
I guess we don't have room for Bil Jackson, David Shifrin or Howard Klug?
Maybe we can bump a few off the above list :-)
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2015-12-15 00:49
My signature was below - no particular order except Ricardo and Yehuda being the best.
But yes, Shifrin is right up there, as well as many others.
There are "finishing" teachers, and there are "rudimentary" teachers. Some are much better at one or the other.
A top 30 or 50 list would be better........
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: CEC
Date: 2015-12-15 01:40
I'd definitely put Professor Klug up there.
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2015-12-15 02:09
The top 5 U.S. clarinet professors likely are unknowns.
B.
Post Edited (2015-12-15 02:10)
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Author: gwie
Date: 2015-12-15 07:58
Maybe we should come up with a list that has as many great teachers as we can list, and then a short statement from students who have studied from them, on what the greatest lesson they learned from that teacher was?
That would be a wonderful resource to read and keep!
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2015-12-15 08:15
Mr. Blumberg suggested the litmus test of teachers producing performance employed students (a pretty good test if you ask me.)
Not that any teacher is pouring out superstars given the limited number of full time orchestral positions, but I'm I correct that Richard Hawley is well sought out precisely for that reason?
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Author: antaresclar
Date: 2015-12-15 17:46
Hands down the clarinet professor who has the most employed students over the last 25 years or so and presently, whether it be as college professors, soloists, orchestral players, or clarinetists making a living in the United States and around the world is Charles Neidich. I happen to be fortunate enough to be one of them.
Garrick Zoeter
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2015-12-15 20:17
Well since I retired several years ago I won't include my name. :-)
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2015-12-16 05:18
How do you determine who is the best teacher for a student? Would a particular student progress faster with #1 than with #50? And would a different student do? I could ask a lot more questions in this vein. I think the word "best" in this situation is a hindrance.
Steve Ocone
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Author: rmk54
Date: 2015-12-16 17:14
It seems some people define "best" as "my friend" or "my teacher".
I agree with Mr. Ocone 100%.
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Author: antaresclar
Date: 2015-12-16 17:47
The good news is that the level of clarinet teaching in the United States right now is as high as it has ever been. There are many well known teachers, often those that have been teaching for 20-30 years +,and there are many exceptional younger teachers that have been teaching for less time but who are nonetheless fantastic. This is something we can all celebrate and be proud of.
Garrick Zoeter
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2015-12-16 17:57
Mr. Ocone point on defining the best teacher are strong ones. The fit between student and teacher has to be there, and arguably any of the name teacher's mentioned previously, although I have enormous respect for all of them, might be bad choices for, say, the beginning student--if for no other reason than they are "refinement teachers," not ones who specialize on teaching the basics.
(Spring and Manasse are IMHO exceptions. They can teach anyone.)
This leads us back to defining "best" in this context, as defined by the OP, and I think restated by Mr. Blumberg, which in turn boils down to:
Who are the top students, looking to make performance careers, gravitating to, and how successful are those teachers at helping to get those students placed in paying jobs.
And as far as that definition is concerned, armchair discussions could exist forever on what role the named teacher played, on getting the already virtuosic student, attracted to that teacher for their name, into a paid position, versus how much of it was the student's doing.
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Author: Chetclarinet
Date: 2015-12-16 19:25
There are so many fine young young clarinetists and so few performing jobs available that those teachers mentioned above and others not mentioned probably feel pressured to not only produce qualified students, but also to compete for, and retain these students. It is often a question of scholarship money available to teachers to be able to offer these gifted players a virtually free education. With private music school tuition approaching or exceeding $50,000 ( or more) per year, it is difficult to attract the really gifted students, even with the stellar reputation of those teachers(and others) mentioned above. Many students actually study with several of these teachers and are spending many years in graduate school, or obtaining Performance certificates to allow them the time to develop the skills necessary to be able to audition for an orchestra job, or qualify for a college position.
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Author: ClarinetUSA
Date: 2015-12-18 23:01
I appreciate all the responses. Mr. Blumberg mentioned "finishing" and "rudimentary" teachers. Who are the best for each?
And at schools known for "finishing", how does that impact the undergraduate students also looking to perform in the ensembles at their school?
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Author: Agomongo
Date: 2015-12-20 10:40
I've heard good things about James Campbell, Steven Cohen, and John Bruce Yeh. Also, I know Gilad loves Michael Wayne. I know a student of his and he loves him too. So Michael Wayne is another great one.
Post Edited (2015-12-20 10:42)
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Author: ClarinetUSA
Date: 2015-12-27 19:42
I appreciate all the responses. Mr. Blumberg mentioned "finishing" and "rudimentary" teachers. Who are the best for each?
And at schools known for "finishing", how does that impact the undergraduate students also looking to perform in the ensembles at their school?
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-12-27 20:43
I guess Mr. Blumberg will have to define what he means and respond to that himself.
As far as I am concerned, if a teacher KNOWS music and the technical processes of clarinet and is quick at discerning a student's errors, then that teacher can start them, grow them, and finish them.
Of course I firmly believe that ALL students should be exposed to a wide variety of instruction. One teacher can say something in a slightly different way that will just "click" for the student. It can be the same idea the first teacher has been pounding away at for years but just hearing it at a slightly different angle could make all the difference to the student.
Finishing teachers then from MY perspective are the good teachers that just happen to get the credit for the great students. After all, the students that wound up in Marcellus' studio had to start somewhere (at it wasn't with Marcellus !!!).
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2015-12-28 00:41
There is a huge variety of skill sets among teachers. I see it all the time.
Each teacher has something to offer.
2 other great teachers are Burt Hara and Howard Klug. I could name teachers all day - there are dozens more who do a great job.
A finishing teacher would be one who (for Orchestral jobs) can prepare the students for the Orchestral Auditions.
But the teacher who can probably do the best job is someone who can instill reality into the students minds, and prepare them for gainful employment........
Probably not as a full time player
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