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Author: AAAClarinet
Date: 2015-12-12 11:29
Can anyone who has played both for more than just a few minutes please compare the two. Any of the models compared would be greatly appreciated. I will try both as soon as I can, just want to get other's opinions. Thanks.
AAAClarinet
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-12-12 13:52
[I assume you mean the standard metal Ishimori because......]
I'm glad at least you're comparing apples to apples. These ligatures are both in the, "hard material," "firm sounding" category.
I had an initial fascination with my (yellow gold) Ishimori because it is a very good Bonade style copy. It is firm and takes control of the sound. in the end I found it too picky in terms of placement and perhaps because it adds too much to the sound.
The Silverstein has a very immediate presence. It adds power without choking the sound at all. It is (for lack of a better description) the best possible "metal" ligature. I say that because it exhibits the very best characteristics of the best metal ligatures. It has nothing whatsoever to do with string, or the associated "softening" or "smoothing" characteristics of articulation, connectivity over wide leaps, or timbre that "string" ligatures have.
I would be more inclined to write great things about the Silverstein but I have difficulty getting over the screw at the top (that faces up). It is NOT convenient. Also the "saw horse" like gizm that is what actually makes the "tightening" action contact (against the top surface of the mouthpiece) has tiny rubber feet as part of what makes it work. I wonder what happens when the little rubber feet wear down or fall off (which they WILL do with continued use). I have not had the opportunity to find out because with every period of use, I eventually go back to ........ string (or a pre-fab woven ligature), or the Vandoren M/O (great AND convenient).
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: CEC
Date: 2015-12-12 22:04
The li'l rubber feet are there for mouthpiece protection only. Silverstein recommend removing them for the best results.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-12-12 23:49
Thank you "CEC."
I never heard that advice before.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: JamesOrlandoGarcia
Date: 2015-12-19 06:06
I just bought the Silverstein Original at the Midwest Clinic and I was blown away by how fantastic was. One key factor is that I think it grips my Legere Signature reeds much better than the Ishimori. Another awesome benefit is that I can use it with my Eb clarinet and the different was even more striking. I tried both the original and cryo 4 and for me with my Yamaha CSGII clarinets, Rico Reserve X0 and Legere reeds, it was the best fit.
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Author: MartyMagnini
Date: 2015-12-20 04:25
I own a Brushed gold Ishimori and a Silverstein 2nd generation (whatever it's called). Overall, I prefer the Silverstein when I don't need to switch horns quickly. I don't mind the top screw, and it has a great, ringing sound. I will say that for me, at least, every time I go to grab the mouthpiece off the horn, the ligature comes loose. Not usually a big deal, as I can re-seat in in a second or two, but if you need to make quick switches frequently, the Ishimori is also a very solid ligature. I've owned (and still own) many ligatures - I know it doesn't make a huge difference, but I just like experimenting with them - it's my vice. I have regularly used a Gold Bay, A Rovner, a Vandoren Klassic - the list goes on and on. My go to ligatures these days are (in order) are: 1) Silverstein 2) BG Duo (really holds the reed tightly, and has a nice, full sound) 3) Ishimori.
Post Edited (2015-12-20 08:04)
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