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Author: jan
Date: 2001-05-08 23:42
hi guys,
im taking a break from practice becuz im getting very frustrated!! ive been working very hard on a piece for clarinet choir. ive had it for about 3 weeks and im not making very much progress.at all. maybe even none. i have another month to work on it but im not gettin anywhere with it and im afraid it wont be ready in time.
here are the problems: the entire piece is tongued and gradually gets faster. on page 2 it begins a series of 16th note runs, tongued and no place to breathe. the 16th notes arent the problem tho, its the 2 32nd note runs and the 16th note triplets. in order to play them accurately i have to slow wayyyy down (and i still have trouble) and then its so slow the 16th notes sound bad. my lesson is tomorrow so i will ask for help (hes also the choir director) but choir is thursday and...and....arrgghhhh!
just needed to vent a little to those who understand.
jan
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Author: Anji
Date: 2001-05-09 00:16
I certainly can't play so quickly, yet.
I'm instructed to start from the back of the piece, when learning.
If the piece is A/B/C/D/A, I start in the D section.
Where there is no breath mark indicated (ancient Chinese secret, here) you leave notes out! The director may indicate where there are 'covering' phrases to mask this.
If the piece is a string transciption, you inevitably take some liberties.
Then again, I thought PDQ Bach was a real composer.
anji
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Author: Mike Irish
Date: 2001-05-09 02:52
have you learned to cycle breath yet?
we use to have contest to see who could play a single note the longest.... we had one fellow in our band, that could maintain for ten minutes with jsut the slightest bit of wavering.... if you were not listening for it , you might have missed it...
I never could do much better then single 1/16 th notes.... triplets on 1/16ths hmmm.... dont think I could get my toung relaxed enough to do that with out just rolling it as if I were speaking a language where rolling the "R" 's is common....
good luck... your teach may have some clues for you.....
Mike
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Author: Blake
Date: 2001-05-10 15:25
Its easy to get frustrated on tough passages, but even better when you finally tackle them and even more when you play them right in a concert. The method I was taught on tough tongued passages is to 1) learn them slurred 2) start tonging in groups (2's for the 16ths , maybe 3's for the triplets 3) slurring 2 tonguing two in the groups etc. I also find "going back to basics" in my baermann method books helps to. Working on the articulation studies and then going to the tough passages helps. The other thing that helps is BREATHE...seriously. One of the worst things you can do is tense up and be "scared" of a passage. I will usually write a little note to myself before a tough tongued passage to breathe and let the tension go out of me from my head to my toes and out through my fingers. You'll be amazed at how much better you can do on a passage is youre not "tensed up".
Good luck
Blake
Arlington, VA
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Author: jan
Date: 2001-05-10 15:42
hey guys....talked to my teacher about this in my lesson yesterday. he said your NOT tonguing it all are you??? of course i was since there were no markings. As it turns out...he just left out markings when he arranged it umpteen years ago. he told me to slur the 32nd notes and triplets. WHEW!!! that will help out a lot! I feel more confident about this now.
thanks for the replies....
MIKE..what...and how do you do cycle breathing?
jan
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